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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:15 pm    Post subject: Thoughts on The Last Jedi? Reply with quote

Legionnaires,

I have been following a lot of discussions on The Last Jedi within many fan groups. There is a lot positive and negative comments being thrown around. I think it would be interesting to see our members take on the movie.

Obviously, there will be spoilers ahead, but I think enough time has passed to start a discussion. Please keep the discussion civil as with any art the final product elicits different reactions in different people.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have seen this movie 11 times in theaters.. Ive made 10+ costumes from the Last Jedi and it was my absolute favorite film out of all of them.



I was absolutely honored to be able to attend the world premier in Los Angeles. Night of my life and I have the Legion to thank for that.

A week later I got a chance to talk to Rian Johnson at the Chinese Theater at the Premier (a few days after the world Premier) and I said to him "Thank you so much, it was everything I ever wanted in a Star Wars Film and it was my favorite." He literally grabbed and hugged me. It was an amazing and genuine hug. it is also how I feel about this film.

My husband has always called Star Wars a simple story, start to finish its pretty straight forward. This movie absolutely blew his mind and says that he now feels that Star Wars is capable of real surprises and complexity. He loves it.



Ben Solo: Ill start off by saying I am a HUGE Kylo Ren fan. I feel like the majority of people who liked Kylo Ren will now love him. I really am rooting for him to go good and stay alive. His tears when he says "Yes, I am a monster." You can see in his face the regret he has for killing his father. Adams acting is stellar in this film. You can see the *redacted* tension from a mile away between Rey and him. =o I think his character has grown and that he is complex and well planned out. I am so excited to see where he goes.




Creatures: The porgs are adorable, the green milk scene was hilarious and those crystal foxes are legit cool.




Luke: I have so many mixed feelings with Luke... Rian was left stuck against a wall, he has picked up this film where JJ left off. He was stuck and cornered and what more could he have done with this film pertaining to Luke? The twist of him being HUMAN and making mistakes really shows true thought went into this film. Luke makes mistakes.

I also love that there are three sides to every story, the truth, the perception of one person and the perception of the other.

Crit: I do not know... I do not know what else Rian could have done... He was really against a wall here.




Finn and Rose and DJ The entire film could have been done without them. But I understand that he needed to become a man and become a person who stopped running. That happened. The traitor truly became the Hero that Rose's sister saw him as. Also the scene where she kisses him and says we wont win this defeating our enemy's its though love made me think of Kylo and Rey. DJs Turrets tick is freaking awesome.

Crit: Could have not had them in the film at all. The casino planet was amazing but a large time sink. I call it my pee break.




Poe WOW! He really made a full 360. He went from being a fly boy who did whatever he wanted to being a true hero who makes thoughtful choices.

Crit: None




Admiral Holdo She is beautiful, loveable and strong! Loras acting was phenomenal.. This is a powerful and confident woman! When she turned that ship towards The First Orders ship I thought to myself Oh my God someone is finally doing in a movie what I have always wanted! Why did it take so many years in movie making for a person to just RAM IT!

Crit: I got nothing...




Rey
She knows nothing. She is nothing. But not to me....

I have nothing really awesome to say about her.. shes just kinda there. Shes adorable (Daisy Ridley is adorable) but shes kinda a shell. I know something will happen with her in the next film...

Crit: Something fishy is going on with her.. we learned so little about her and she seems to be the one that didnt progress. That would be a critique of mine.. was this on purpose?





Leia
They had a full year to make changes to this film yet they still kept her alive?! Whats going on here. I am sure JJ has a plan.

Crit: Not a fan of "Super Leia". It was a bit much. Smile





Phasma
Phasma is a Chrome Goddess and watching her fight was awesome!

Crit: Rian killed her?! NOOO



Snoke

I am a huge snoke fan. We better get a comic book about him later. His death was really really well done

Crit: Uhhh...Whos snoke?! Very Happy I need a backstory!






Favorite Scene: Killing Snoke. Wow. Its my favorite scene in all of Star Wars and the battle was super intimate. Those two working together was brilliant and how Snoke was killed is amazing. It shows just how powerful Kylo is to be able to fool his own master like that.

Favorite New Character: Praetorian Guards: OH MY GOSH THEY MADE THEM MOVE and battle!! .. STUNNING!


My Favorite Aspect:
A Jedi can come from anyone and anywhere.
There are Two sides to every story.
There is a lot more to learn about our newest characters.
Reylo is a thing?! Razz


Costumes: Huge Props to Michael Kaplan and the rest of the costume Department. STUNNING JOB. This movie took me from REALLY wanting to work on a Star Wars film to I am looking for a job in the industry right now so I can work my way there.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 12:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have an essay (if not a dissertation) brewing on this film and what it says about Star Wars, but the short answer is that this is on par with Empire (my favorite Star Wars film) in that I consider them to be roughly equal in terms of how brilliant they are.

They understand what the Force is all about (as did TFA and Rebels Kenobi/Maul scene) in a storytelling sense.

Their handling of all the key characters was brilliant, especially Luke, Rey, Kylo, and Snoke.

The performances Hammil, Ridley, Driver are probably the best we've seen in any Star Wars film, even better than Hammil's performance in Empire. Oscar-worthy in my view.

Chewie was awesome, as always, but damn these kids always messing up his ship. Radar dish is gone AGAIN!

I loved the entire subplot with Rose, Finn, Poe, and Holdo and the way it payed off both with Holdo's sacrifice and Poe's growth into a true leader, Finn into a real hero.

Falcon escape pods! OMG!

I love me some Porg!

Rian Johnson is a filmmaker with something to say, and I like what he said, and am excited to so what else he has to offer, both in and out of Star Wars.

I a few complaints about the way certain things were handled or developed. I thought the urgency of the Rebel fleets plight was done poorly; with lots of heavy handed, expository dialog, a literal ticking clock, etc. It gets the information across, but it fails to feel desperate. Battlestar Galactica's first episode "33" has a similar situation and makes the fleet's situation feel desperate and I think a similar approach would have been better.

Luke's showdown with Kylo was incredible and the perfect way to handle that confrontation and stay true to what the Force and the Jedi were all about.

The real Yoda returns! Excellent.

I'm leaning towards disliking space Mary Poppins. It certainly works on me emotionally, but my brain is bothered by why it's happening: The plot needs Leia out of the way because the Poe vs Holdo plot would never have worked with her, and because I hate it when science-fiction/fantasy cheats death, with maybe 3 or 4 exceptions in all of fiction.

The best thing really is that its hard to predict where it will go from here. About the only guess I can make is that Leia will have to die, both because Carrie Fisher is gone and they've stated they won't CGI her and because this trilogy is clearly about the end of the Skywalker's dominance over the galaxy, and a new era where stable boys, scavengers, space janitors, and grease monkeys (in short, everyone) are the heroes.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 1:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't hate it. But I probably won't watch it again.

I won't get into the details, if you liked it, fine, If you didn't, also fine.

I am so tired of all the defending that's going on. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 1:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So i have seen the movie 3 times now and with each time focused on a different aspect of the movie and watched for details that i may have missed the previous time. At first i had many mixed feelings when i first saw it and didn't know what to think sometimes even speechless. I love how diverse the movie is and that its something new but still it maintains its star wars feel. With that being said there were some issues or questions you could say about some scenes like how Leia floated back to the ship after the bridge was blown up, where did she learn that and how was she not dead from the blast like the rest of the command. Another thing is where did snoke come from? i feel that for such an important character they could have divulged into his background a bit and what about Boba Fett i mean Captian Phasma Laughing she was a kick a$$ character! My favorite couple scenes was when looked stepped onto the falcon and was talking to R2-D2 that just brought me back to A New Hope. Also when Yoda appeared i'll admit i about lost it and was jumping up and down cause you know who doesn't love yoda! There is one part that particularly broke my heart was when Luke turned into a force ghost(well assuming he did) i was not expecting that at all Luke has been my favorite character.

Overall i loved the movie and it brings more to the Star Wars franchise like every movie does and hope to see many more in the future.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 3:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm going to admit that the first time I saw it I didn't buy into it totally. There was some really, really good, and some bad.
Being the second movie of a trilogy I didn't expect much to be resolved and that's pretty much the case. We do truly learn that this is the Rey trilogy, not a Skywalker trilogy. That's fine.
I have seen it three times and it does improve with repeated viewings. In some ways it's a brilliant film. But there is also a fair bit that sits within the brain and says, 'nah'.
It's true that many people who dislike this movie do so on the premise that they would have written it differently, or that's not how I wanted such and such to play out, etc The one thing I truly did like was the lack of predictability while staying within certain necessary parameters.
Still not sure about flying Leia. It doesn't play as badly as some detractors would have you believe, but it's still a bit off.
The whole casino planet was mostly a waste of time. The design screamed prequels, that lengthy escape on whatever those horsie things were was lame and filled with incredibly bad cgi. The only positive is that Finn's journey progresses into a truly heroic REBEL, rather than a disenfranchised imperial.
Holdo was an unnecessary character, Admiral Ackbar should have been the self sacrificing hero. Teaching Poe that leadership lesson was incredibly expensive, there were better ways to handle these characters. To be honest, there was no good plan by anyone, why not just have people make the best decisions possible given the circumstances, fall back to their farthest point, and then have Luke buy them the time needed to escape?
I didn't mind DJ, but how the heck did he know the rebel shuttles were sneaking away? And why did we (and Holdo) have to watch so many be destroyed before acting?
Didn't need Maz at all.
Captain Phasma was wasted, she is the Boba Fett of this trilogy.
This movie needed about fifteen minutes removed. It needed more tweaking to really make it work on more levels for more people.

Nitpicking over.

There is some great stuff, the opening battle is excellent, the Rey/Kylo fight incredible, I loved Chewie flying, Luke's projection was wonderful. There were scenes causing huge smiles on my face scattered throughout. Overall it's a fun ride, flawed but enjoyable, a middle chapter that exudes the purposely created feeling of dread before we get to the finale.

It's not a bad movie (to me, obviously) but nor is it a masterpiece. I'd rank it fourth in the Star Wars universe.

I look forward to the third movie, but I will admit that the Rey payoff better be huge.
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This film has helped children realize that different types of people can save the day. I really liked it because of the new positive female characters it introduced. Because of these characters, the girls in my program can be a "bad guy" like Phasma or a "good guy" like Rose. The boys are drawing pictures of Rey and Finn because they are the heroes. The princess is also a general, you can be tough and wear a dress. I loved the message of this film. Plus, who doesn't want a porg stuck to their windshield?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 4:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I’ve had two viewings and a lot of time to think about what I thought about it, though sadly - it’s been a while since I’ve seen it and I’ve let a lot of social commentary influence what I think about it.

When once my initial thoughts was that it was just an OK movie, as time has passed, all the negativity I’ve seen has made me think on it more fondly than I originally did. Though there was definitely a couple things I did not like, and some stuff that, if removed, would have made the movie better, I’m actually quite excited to buy a copy when it comes out on BluRay.

Two things that I absolutely did not like was the “green milk scene” and the Leia in space scene.

The look on Mark Hamill’s green milk covered face was just so annoyingly stupid, I cringe every time I think about it. Completely unnecessary.

The second thing i didn’t agree with is more personal.

We are all still to this day, reeling over the painful loss of our beloved Carrie Fisher and to get that close up of her being yanked out into space after the explosion on the bridge was, to me, in extremely poor taste. I did NOT want to see that and it broke my heart when it happened - regardless of if she lived or not.

Now, to be positive, I think the whole scene in Snoke’s throne room with Kylo and Rey was just brilliant. The death of Snoke and the battle with the Praetorian Guards was amazing!!!!!!!!!!! It was so good it made the Kylo/luke battle just meh.

Another thing I loved about it is Rose Tico. Such a wonderfully sweet and beautiful character. I’m very glad she was involved as much as she was, especially with the hype we got about her before the movie was released. Kind of the opposite of Phasma. (I do think Phasma is still alive though and we will probably see her in episode nine, bucket-less and with a huge burn scar on her face where the helmet was broke).

I loved how the new main lead characters all have grown and I’ve come to love them all in this second part. Kylo. Poe. Rey. Kylo. All great characters.

I’m really looking forward to learning more about it with (hopefully) a lot of behind the scenes stuff in special features and with the novelization.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't care for it. To me, it didn't feel like Star Wars. I've been told I'm "not a fan," that I "didn't understand it," and outright attacked. I'm fine that folks enjoyed it. I'm actually glad they did, but it wasn't for me. I've never left a SW film feeling like I didn't care about what was coming next. Since I view the heroes as the murders of the rebellion, I'm not too concerned with their fates. I've seen it twice. I will not be watching it again until after 9 comes out. I will see 9, but likely not at any rush. It's just not a priority to me anymore.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've only seen the movie twice so far, but I'm looking forward to future viewings. I know I'll love it more each time. My initial thought after the first viewing was a little disappointed, but I think that was because of all of the hype surrounding the premiere. We didn't really learn anything new about Rey, and I think I was expecting a big I AM YOUR FATHER-type scene. I still love Rey as a character and I like the development of everyone in the movie.
I wasn't very keen on what I like to call "Space Leia", but I will say this in its defense: one of my biggest disappointments with Ep VII was that we didn't get to see any real Force ability in Leia. I had always hoped that Luke would have taught her, she would have been rocking her own sabre and etc. Surviving the vacuum of space is a little hard to stomach, but I did like the acknowledgement that she is a powerful Force user too.
It saddens me that people are being so hateful towards this chapter. It didn't go where we expected it to go, but I'm still enjoying the ride.
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I've only seen the movie twice, and I feel like I'll need to see it several more times before I fully take it in.
I liked it, but there were problems.

I love Rey. From the first time I saw TFA I said "I love this character" and made a costume 2 days later. I improved upon that costume and then joined the legion. So she's basically the reason I'm a member.
I felt that making her "no one" does her a huge disservice. Whether or not it's true, as I believe there's a good chance that Kylo lied to her, it was a disservice to her. I felt like TFA hammered it into your head that she's supposed to be Luke's daughter. They throw that on it's head right away in TLJ, but they could have gone in a different direction, one where she is part of the Skywalker lineage. Why? Because Kathleen Kennedy has literally said that "Star Wars is the story of the Skywalker family". And if she's not a part of that, then they're basically saying that the movie is about Kylo, and she's just an ancillary character whose whole purpose is to provide a perspective for his story. And in my opinion. that's a mistake. If she was related to him, she'd have a much stronger character arc as she deals with the fact that her own relative killed his own father and committed other terrible atrocities. That she is a descendant of Darth Vader. I kept hearing people say that she didn't develop as a character, and this would have provided the perfect opportunity for that. Not to mention the fact that it's literally been less than a week since she was on Jakku.
That was another issue I had with the film; they might have been better off putting some more time between the 2 films. I think everyone is inserting more time into it when really, there is none. Luke gave into Rey too easily if they really wanted to make him seem totally against it. She followed him around for 2 days and he agreed. It would have had more of an impact if it was a few weeks or months. They could have added something to give more depth to Rose and Finn's mission, which seemed almost unnecessary. Yes, I know it was important to show that Finn has matured as a character and that there are rich people who don't care either way because they get rich off of war, but it didn't seem to fit well. If there had been some more time between the 2 movies, there could have been something with more weight.
I wish Admiral Holdo had been either introduced in TFA or fleshed out more. It felt like she was shoehorned in to be a foil to Poe and then sacrifice herself. It felt like a waste of what could have been an amazing character.

With that out of the way, I did enjoy the movie. I thought that the scene in the throne room was amazing, although it was disappointing that Snoke was just killed off and no back story was given. I would have liked to see more training between Luke and Rey. Having Yoda come back and keep trolling Luke was pretty awesome.

I guess I felt like they created too many questions in TFA and didn't really answer any of them in this one. In A New Hope, the big question isn't "who is Luke's father", which is why the Darth Vader reveal was so surprising. I feel like if they planned to make Rey no one, they shouldn't have made it a mystery in the first place instead of implying that she's a member of the established lineages. If the whole idea was that "greatness can come from anywhere/nowhere", why not just make her know who her parents are and have them be dead or even there but neglectful? The whole thing just makes me feel like we're getting shafted story wise.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

(Apologies in advance for the length. I ended up writing this as more of a letter to Lucasfilm/Disney and Pete Vilmur)

Take all my comments below with a healthy grain of salt. I’m a movie buff and things that drive me crazy might not bother the general movie goer. I saw the most recent film three times including once in 70mm IMAX, the one I actually paid for instead of getting in as a thank you for trooping. In all instances where I saw Ep8 with the general public and casual fans, they visibly had a good time and enjoyed themselves.

I'll be honest, I graded both Episodes 7 and 8 on a curve.

Episode 7: loved the characters, loved the practical sets and effects, the story felt like a retread of Ep4 only faster paced (did we really need a third planet killer?), but since they were resetting the franchise I was ok with that and willing to see what they did next.

Episode 8: I was VERY happy they tried to take some risks and not play it safe but there was plenty that I thought could have done better. I get that this is a movie, and that compromises have to be made and that the series was originally (and still primarily is) aimed at the 5-11 year old I was during the OT era than the 40 something adult I am today. But I want movies that can play well to adults as well as the kids.

Out of all three of the new movies, I absolutely LOVED Rogue One and didn’t need to grade it on a curve. The return to the OT era was nice but that wasn’t what I really love about the movie. It was seeing a desperate rebellion and factions within both it and the empire, with shades of grey in both as well, that made the movie feel very grounded and real while still being a part of the Star Wars Universe. Of the three it’s the one I’ll watch over and over. Something with that sensibility in Episodes X-XII would be amazing.

The dislikes:

1) Poe's arc. He had no business being the Commander of their starfighter corps if he didn't already know sometimes you have to cut your losses. The Resistance isn't the US military circa 1944 with an essentially unlimited amount of replacement crews and material. If anything it's the US military circa 1777 where force preservation is everything. Going toe to toe with the 1st Order is asking for the Resistance to be destroyed in one battle, and if Rey hadn't come along to save the day that's exactly what would have happened. As it was Poe’s actions reduced the Resistance to something that could comfortably fit inside the Millenium Falcon.

I understand you can't get the same sort of character development in two hours you can in a twelve episode season on tv or streaming. A sentence or two in the script could have gone a long way to address the problem of his leadership deficiencies. 'I knew you weren't ready for this position but I thought we'd have more time for you to learn' or something along those lines would have helped by acknowledging its existence. I did love Leia’s rejoinder to Poe on the bridge after his comment about heroes being on the mission where he took out the dreadnaught but got everyone killed “Dead heros but no leaders.”

Rian said in an interview that ‘Twelve O'Clock High’ was a big influence on that opening sequence. I think he ought to watch it again and focus on the characters of Colonel Davenport and General Savage, and what the burden of leadership and command could do to a person.

2) The space chase. THEY HAD MULTIPLE STAR DESTROYERS CHASING A FEW SMALL SHIPS! This really, really annoyed me. I understand that it was a big part of the movie having a dramatic space plot and the story as written would have been over in ten minutes without it, but for the love of all that’s holy why not have a few star destroyers jump ahead five or ten light minutes and box them in? Lazy writing, very lazy. Rian and JJ can do better.

3) The Ring: “You can trust us, we’re with the Resistance. Here, let me show you my secret decoder ring to prove it.” Well ok then! Obviously you must be with the Resistance and I’ll help you. I rolled my eyes every time. It could just be the grumpy middle aged me talking, maybe the five year old who saw Star Wars in 1977 would have loved it.

4) Super BB8: Look, I love BB8 as much as anyone but please, please, tone down him down a bit going forward. He was great in Ep7 but in Ep8 he was literally saving Poe, Finn and Rose time after time. It took me out of the movie, especially the last time with him piloting the scout Walker. He was the Mary Sue of the movie and he didn’t need to be if they’d given Finn and Rose more to work with.

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1) Luke. He had a lesson to learn and I had no issues with his arc. It seemed a little out of character for him to just give up and wait to die, but at the same time Ben/Kylo could have been the straw that broke the camel's back. There are some legion members I argued with on FB who absolutely hated this version of Luke, passionately. Yoda was a bit of a distraction for me, but I think I’ve gotten too used to the Yoda from the Clone Wars and Rebels tv shows rather than the more mischievous version in Empire Strikes Back which Rian was going after.

2) Rose...man I'm conflicted on Rose. Kelly Marie Tran did a great job with what she was given and I look forward to seeing what she can do in the future. That said I’m not really sure what her character’s purpose was and how she fit into the big picture.

3) Canto Bight: I get what they were trying to do with it in showing the darkness under all the glitz and glamor and awakening the true Rebel in Finn, but it felt like a distraction from the main plot. This goes double for the chase scene with the animals running through the casino and the streets. You could have cut it out, not lost anything and shortened the running time a bit.

Also, if the escape pods are hyper capable and can go across the galaxy why didn’t the transports have hyperdrives and scatter? Feels like an obvious plothole. Admittedly, this is a nitpick but I felt it needed to be pointed out.

4) Rey’s parentage - After seeing Ep 7 and being asked who I thought Rey’s parents were I said if she wasn’t a Skywalker they wasted an awful lot of foreshadowing in that movie. It was wasted, but I’m ok with her parents being nobodies if Kylo’s words turn out to be true.

Likes
1) Taking risks. I had my issues with this movie, but thank you, thank you, a thousand times thank you for being willing to take risks and not giving us an ESB clone like I was afraid you might. If Star Wars is going to stay fresh and expand as a franchise you have to be willing to take some risks and go in new directions.

2) Snoke’s death. Loved that plot twist! I didn’t see it coming and was rolling my eyes expecting a repeat of ROTJ’s throne room scene but you pulled a fast one. Loved it! He was done in by his own arrogance and sense of invulnerability. The set for that scene seemed a bit odd and distracting though, it felt like something out of an MGM musical. Maybe Snoke was a fan, who knows?

3) Rey’s arc. I loved her interaction with Luke on Ach-To and her journey to becoming a Jedi. The first lesson was an instance where the humor really worked well. Same with her ‘put a shirt on’ comment to Kylo.

4) Kylo Ren. I loved all of his scenes and him taking his next step in becoming the true big bad of the new trilogy. Adam Driver killed it.

5) ‘Last Jedi Rashomon’ I loved how Kylo and Luke both had their own versions of events that led to Kylo’s fall, and how Rey and Kylo both saw the two of them taking down Snoke together but didn’t realize what it really meant until it happened.

6) DJ’s betrayal. I loved seeing a character solely in it for the money and to save his own skin. It ought to teach Finn and Rose a valuable lesson that not everyone is going to be loyal to the cause or to them and be more cautious in the future (though admittedly beggars couldn’t be choosers in this situation). If you decide to bring him back for Ep9 I won’t complain.

7) Crait Luke - The redemption of Luke Skywalker and lighting the fires of hope across the galaxy. I admit I was confused the first time I watched the movie about how Luke suddenly looked so different, but I loved that plot twist of him not even being on the planet. His ‘death’ scene was one of the best in Star Wars history. Hope he comes back as a Force Ghost for a cameo or two.

8 ) Porgs. (Damn you Disney <g>) I was all set up to dislike the Porgs as just another cynical marketing gimmick to sell toys but you sold me on them. If they stay they stay, but if they go they go and I’ll still be content with what you had in Ep8.

May the Force be with you, always.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 5:16 pm    Post subject: An enjoyable film Reply with quote

I have been asked many times, "how did you like the Last Jedi?". From a pure entertainment perspective, it was a bit long but it was an entertaining film. I liked it better than the Force Awakens but not as much as Rogue One. Let me explain:

1. In TFA, the character development didn't go far enough to give the new characters depth or give enough history to really like or dislike some characters (I call this Darth Maul syndrome). In TLJ, too much time may have been devoted, for too long, on Luke and Rey's interaction. I'm not really sure we got more than we already knew and that whole reflection scene was just obnoxiously weird and accomplished nothing. Reminded me of a retro 70's music video.

2. The ending battle scene with fake Luke and Kylo may have been one of the best yet in the SW world. I also think it gave us more insight into Kylo's rage and he's really getting good at the temper tantrums. Showing depth of characters in real situations is a definite plus compared to long drawn out scenes.

3. Porgs. I think we all agree this was a marketing/merchandising ploy by the new regime to sell toys. If they are in fact Wookiee food, than keep them as the occasional comic relief.

4. The ghost Yoda was a true highlight of the film. I kept waiting/hoping Obi Wan or Qui Gon would also pop out and offer words of wisdom. A ghost reunion of them all would be the highlight of the next film. Just saying.

5. As with all the SW films, the battle scenes, especially the space battles, are phenomenal. Getting the Bad Robot people involved was absolutely the right call as the CG is stunning.

6. A factor that often gets overlooked, is the soundtrack. What an amazing job John Williams once again performed.

7. It seems Finn is being forced on us. Is he a hero or is he just lucky? If you plucked him completely out of the story line, would anyone notice? Just one man's opinion of course.

I will be buying this on Bluray just so I can not only add it to my collection, but so I can continue to enjoy this entertaining film.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2018 1:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think "The Last Jedi" is a good link between two movies in a trilogy. So many fans were disappointed that deep connections were not exposed that it ruined things for them. "Who were Ray's parents" Who is Snoke really". The hidden details are what some live for.
I thoroughly enjoyed the film in it's own right. Loved the crystal critters, not so much the porgs. How Kylo Ren deceived his master in order to kill him was "masterful" in and of itself. The characters were consistent to themselves and many grew and developed. Good suspense and plotting, Good script, good acting, and good casting.
The porgs were cute, but behaved inconstantly, should never been allowed to move in and set up housekeeping on a star-ship.
just a few thoughts.
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