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ANH Obi-wan Kenobi Soft Parts Photo Tutorial

 
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BobaFuss (Doug Cottrell)
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 7:36 pm    Post subject: ANH Obi-wan Kenobi Soft Parts Photo Tutorial Reply with quote

I wanted to share my reference photos of ANH Obi-wan "Ben" Kenobi and some things I discovered while building my costume. The Blu Ray was of great help since it shows detail much better than the DVD.

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His outer robe is brown wool, weathered with sandy beige. You can see that the sleeves are set in, and there are also seams at the shoulders. This differs from prequel Jedi robes which do not have these seams.

The hood is attached to the body of the robe with the rough edge turned to the outside. This makes for a clean seam when viewed from the front. Even when the hood is up, the folds of fabric hide the raw edge of the seam.



There is no seam in the centre back of the robe, also different from the prequel robes. The pointed hood has a single seam up the back, but no seam across the top. It lays flat on his head when viewed from the front.



The robe is unhemmed at the bottom, sleeves, front and hood, with some threads frayed. I have read that there is a line of stitching near the edges to prevent the fabric from unravelling, but I have not been able to confirm this.



Under Robes - Tunic, Tabbard, Obi
He wears a long kimono-style tunic, with a long tabbard scarf, and an obi sash. I am informed by an expert in the film industry that the fabric is called shantung silk. The colour is a natural, unbleached beige with a distinct, single-direction weave, with a noticeable nubbly texture, uneven threads, and slubs. The fabric was likely washed and noticeably weathered and broken down. The weave on the fabric is different on the various parts. It runs horizontally on the tunic, trim, and obi. It runs vertically on the tabbard and sleeve (i.e. around the arms, not up and down them). The contrast helps the various components stand out. There are several thread pulls all over the under robes, as well as some surface weathering/staining.



The tunic is oversized with deep sleeves, and a very full drape at the bottom. The gathers at the waist seen at the sides and back suggest that the bottom half (or skirt portion) may be separate from the top, with a seam hidden by the obi. This is not confirmed, but a hypothesis.



The tunic features five patches in a putty brown colour. These were set in from the back (like a real patch would be) with some of the threads pulled on the tunic and left frayed around the patch. The patches have a distinct cross weave texture (similar to burlap).

Texture of Patch Fabric


Locations are: upper right chest, lower left chest (near arm pit), both elbows, and a small one on the lower front left trim.

Upper Right Chest


Upper Right Chest and Lower Left Chest


Lower Left Chest


Right Elbow


Left Elbow


Bottom of Trim


The trim is top-stitched very close to the seam where it attaches to the tunic.



The tunic and sleeves have a hem of approximately 1.5", top-stitched. The tabbards have a slightly smaller hem, also top-stitched.



The obi appears to be wider in back than in front, and does not have any visible seam or stitching. It overlaps in back approximately 1".



I hope you find this helpful. If anyone cares to make any corrections, feel free. Good luck with your build!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is amazing! Thanks!!!

It will come in useful Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 7:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's...wow.

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Nice research!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 3:57 pm    Post subject: I need help w/ fabric for "Ben Kenobi" Reply with quote

I noticed a few pictures were not Obi-wan, but a costumer, is that you? and if so, what fabric did you use to make the tunic and cloak? I am going to "rebuild" my costume and am having trouble finding fabric.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 8:09 am    Post subject: Re: I need help w/ fabric for "Ben Kenobi" Reply with quote

oldobiwan wrote:
I noticed a few pictures were not Obi-wan, but a costumer, is that you? and if so, what fabric did you use to make the tunic and cloak? I am going to "rebuild" my costume and am having trouble finding fabric.


The pics that are not stills from the movie are pics of the actual screen used costume that were on display in an exhibit called "The Magic of Myth".

One thing I noticed on the Blu Ray was the mark on the bottom of the front of the inner robe that kind of looks like a squared off "Nike slash" is actually in the movie. You can see it in the scene on the Millennium Falcon when Ben senses the huge disturbance in the force when Alderan is destroyed by the Death star. Hard to tell if it is a mark or a lighter colored patch. There appears to be stitching around it in the display pic.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 2:42 am    Post subject: Obi- Wan soft parts Reply with quote

Doug.....where did you get the pattern? ( for the tunic) what is the name and number of the pattern,...?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doug - just wanted to point out that there is a seam down the back of Ben's robe. I saw it in two scenes while taking stills from the Blu Ray. The first scene was when they were going into the cantina and the second scene was when Ben and Vader are fighting on the Death Star. The seam is not very apparent from the pictures from the Magic of Myth tour shots.

Cantina

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Death Star fight

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also noticed that there is another patch on the tunic. I refer to it as the "nike" patch because of its shape. At first I thought it was some damage on the costume in the Magic of Myth pictures from possibly tape from packing or something like that. It is clearly visible in your picture above where you talk about the seams at the bottom of the tunic. I also saw it in the scene where, while training Luke on the Falcon, Ben senses the destruction of Alderaan. If you look closely you can see stitching around the patch in your Magic of Myth picture.

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