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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think that'll be a problem, though
personally I'd make them go straight down past the obi,
mimicking the front.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We've had a heap of trouble getting the shoulder tuck sorted due to the angle of the shoulder, and finally had to put an expansion dart in. It's done now, all finishing touches are compete on tunics and Tabards.

The standards say;

1. Large Jedi robe or cloak, similar to movie canon robes/cloaks, in allowed color palette, with attached hood.

So I asked if my design was acceptable, and got this reply;

Fyr Mureys wrote:
SithariRog wrote:
A robe has sleeves, a cloak doesn't. The Generic Jedi costume standards, as written, allow for either. But they must be full bodied and reach to the floor.


Thank you, SithariRog. I have had too many heated disputes about the difference between robes, cloaks and capes to not check before making my cloak that someone is not going to say; "You can't have that cape, it has to be a robe. And Cloak is just another way of saying robe..."


Personally, I love cloaks, and am not wild about robes. So, we have done a heap of work in the cloak.

Inner Tunic - Complete
Outer Tunic - Complete
Obi - Complete
Tabards - Complete
Cloak - 60%
Pants - Complete
Belt - Pending
Pouches - 50%
Boots - Pending
Food Capsules - Ordered
Covertec Clip - Complete
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cloak-making

Guestimating the measurement. Round off your height, double it, add half a meter to be sure. In my case, I bought 4.5m of Outer and 4.5m of Liner drill cotton. Drill cotton is a very tough and reliable cloth, so I use it a lot. If you choose a softer liner, like velvet, be sure that it has a similar width to the drill, which is 112cm. I'd rather spend a bit more to have all the cloth I need than run short at a critical moment.

Measurement. 
"Measure twice, cut once!"
I cut two lengths at height minus 10cm, or in my case, 180cm.

Be aware that most cloth has a front and back. The next cuts are critical, here. We need a diagonal cut from bottom left to top right corner of both sheets, measure 20 cm on the top and bottom edges from the corners. If you have two people, mark top and bottom, fold, iron the fold, then cut along it to get a good cut. You need both sheets to be as close to the same cut as possible. Mark the back side of both sheets, and all corners at this stage before you cut anything. I find it helpful to mark all corners with a 1 on the first sheet and a 2 on the second sheet, it will help you with lining things up later.

Keeping in mind the front and back of each black piece, line up the diagonal edges of each quarter and sew together with fronts facing each other. Marking the back sides before the first cuts may be a good idea to help this stage. Some drill cotton bolts have a lighter colour at one edge, consider positioning this edge so it is hidden or is at the edge of the cloak rather than in the middle.



If you line the 1 edges up with the 2 edges you should get something this;



I use a zigzag stitch close to the edge of the cloth to do a join, followed by a tight straight stitch further in to finish the join for a good, strong result. Immediately after you do a join is the best time to flip it over and check the other side for mistakes.



Join the resulting two halves together to get a full side, making sure that all the stitching is on the same (inner/back) side. This is a good time to try the cloak on, you will get a good impression of how it will fit. 



Fit together the other 4 (Inner) pieces to get a full side, then sew the outer and inner sides together at the two sides and the long bottom edge. At this stage you should be able to see all the stitching, none of it should be inside the cloak. 

Now for the fun bit, turn the cloak inside-out (or right way round) and carefully poke out the corners.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

After much hunting, got some boots. They're a bit tight, but theyre leather and stretching. I've worn them for 6 hours today after pouring warm water in them this afternoon. I may do it again with hotter water next time, to speed up the moulding process.




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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fun boots. I'm glad they're leather so they'll conform and fit. Hopefully without blisters.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 1:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, boots. Must remember not to pour boiling water into them and go for a long Walt the night before a weekend troop, no matter how much I want to wear those boots on that troop!



I also have blisters on both heels. I put tape on my heels beforehand, but misjudged the blistering area.

I've now stuffed the boots with wet newspaper amd am letting the paper get the blisters for me... Which I really should have done in the first place!

The things we do for costuming...

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry for smiling.... Laughing Laughing Laughing

...but I made the complete same experience when trying to fit my boots!!!!

All those stories with warm water...or other (body)warm fluids Confused seem to only have worked for our grandfathers, hah??

My boots still don´t fit, but if i just don´t walk fast or too far they´re ok for me...well, there is no other way than just to "stand it". No money for new and better boots... Mad

Good luck for you & your feet!!!!
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't blame you for smiling. This was the second warm water treatment I've given, this time the water was boiling and it did help the leather. I went walking with them to help stretch them, but didn't anticipate how quickly the consequences would set in. I also taped the wrong areas for safety... My bad! The problem is that I have a troop for all weekend, and I really wanted to wear those boots... I've worn them for six hours before, but not much walking. These blisters are going to be nasty this weekend in costume... With old boots!
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had my first troop as a RL cadet at the Heroes and Villains ComiCon, Penrith, Sydney, Australia.

It's not easy being green... Take one.
Jade, Green Lantern Corps!


It's not easy being green... Take two!
The Enchantress...


Courtesy of E Photography;




Order 66...


... And Order 66 courtesy of Kelly!

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 12:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just a quick update. Made some pants, finished the cloak in time for Heroes and Villains, and have been wearing the boots, which have stretched nicely and are much more comfortable. Cut out the leather for the second pouch, just need to punch and assemble. Remaining components needed;

Food capsules, order on way.
Second pouch, assemble.


Belt... This is a tricky one. I have a black belt, but my boots and pouches are all dark brown. My wide brown belt has two tongues and is not approvable according to the Costume Standards for Generic Jedi. So... Back to the leather shop!



Inner Tunic - Complete
Outer Tunic - Complete
Obi - Complete
Tabards - Complete
Cloak - 99%
Pants - Complete
Belt - Pending
Pouches - 75%
Boots - Complete
Food Capsules - Ordered
Covertec Clip - Complete
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The other day I did the screen accurate method of procuring Jedi belts...
I went to an opportunity shop and, although there wasn't anything really fantastic, a couple showed some promise. On the way out I saw a couple of scary high heels with a nice buckle.

Here's the result;



As you see, I skipped the Sam Browne studs in favor of Adi Gallia's woven belt style.



Finally, I brutally weathered it with black dubbin.



And the food capsules arrived, yay!

Inner Tunic - Complete
Outer Tunic - Complete
Obi - Complete
Tabards - Complete
Cloak - 99%
Pants - Complete
Belt - Complete
Pouches - 75%
Boots - Complete
Food Capsules - Complete
Covertec Clip - Complete

I expect to be taking photos for submission in the next week.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you sure that style of belt is accepted for a generic Jedi?
As a guy who likes to check new entries for inspiration, I can't remember
any of the recent applications (other than that particular face character)
with a woven belt...

The belt does look great though.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

True they should be leather belt, i had a recluit recently rejected because the belt was not leather, eventhought it had a treatment it was made of a similar material, is it suede?

the requirement for generic jedi states:

4. Black or Brown belt (all belts should be proportional to wearer):

* Style A: Similar to Prequel Jedi belts: Wide leather main belt with a thinner secondary belt on top of the main belt, and a movie-style buckle on the secondary belt. Thinner secondary belt cannot be loose or "sag".
* Style B: Similar to Luke’s utility belts: Singular wide leather belt with a rectangular, octagonal or oval unadorned buckle.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry guys, you're confusing me here.

It is definitely two leather belts designed in the classic big belt small belt "Style A". The "woven" term refers to the fixation style, passing the small belt through the big belt rather than using the studs. This technique has been described in one of the RL belt tutorials, I can hunt up a link if you really want me to. And it's dark brown to go with my dark brown boots.

I have studied the generic costume standards extensively, before starting this build, and continue to refer back to them at every stage of the build. I'm having difficulty understanding what the concern is, would you please clarify?

Thanks, Fyr
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, my concern was the construction style, since from I can tell
over 90% of all Gen Jedi use the smaller belt =over= the larger belt
technique, rather than having the small belt go through.
Something I always thought was reserved for face characters.

RavenApprentice's concern seems to be (correct me if I'm wrong) the
material. While it is leather, it does seem to have a suede like
look to it.

I think this is where LCJ's come into play....
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