Millenium Falcon Endor Gunners

G'nott sH'urr (David Campbell) · Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:43 pm Post subject:

thanks, I've already spoken with Cal on those, he wont be offering them in "my" size.

I wrote the tute on how to modify coveralls for the Empire and have done several. AWW/RedKap makes a cotton set that is actually a bit more expensive for the single pair, but I could get some matching twill and make my own pockets from scratch, plus there are less pockets to pull off of this one. I have pulled pockets off 15 sets of coveralls so far, a few less pockets to remove would be nice Smile

Toda () · Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 5:46 pm Post subject:

I am of the opinion that the trooper in front is wearing a shirt and pants and NOT a jumpsuit. Colors are slightly off and when you play with color effects in editing programs they are definitely different in my opinion. Could a shirt and pant option be added to the standard? You also see and hear of similar khaki or tan fatigues worn during the New Republich ere in the comics and books.

Toda () · Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 5:16 pm Post subject:

Here is a false color mock up that I created. The first crewman appears to be wearing a separate shirt (light false color) and pants (darker signature) when compared to the second crewman (more uniform coloring). Also, I could not pick up a second set of front pockets on the front crewman. If that is the case, the front crew may actually be wearing the 2 piece tan fatigues that the holoprojector tech (S'too Vees)and many of the other techs/crew/mechanics were wearing on Home One (second image).

Schph Gochi (Phyllis Schulte) · Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 9:50 pm Post subject:

Toda () · Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 10:06 pm Post subject:

Yes Schph, I totally agree with you. I just wish I was part of RL when this original discussion occurred! So, for the few out there that may believe the crewman in the front IS wearing shirt and pants and not the more common jumpsuit, do you think it is the same as the Holo. tech/crew/mechanic fatigues?
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Schph Gochi (Phyllis Schulte) · Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 11:07 am Post subject:

G'nott sH'urr (David Campbell) · Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 11:03 pm Post subject:

necro-ing.

its been about a year from previous discussion, and i intentionally shelved this project because I diddnt see a point in going forward.

The CRL calls for tan or grey. I know there is the claim that its grey, however all of my photos and even my deleted scenes figure are tan.
Screen-seen on every platform I have viewed it on , shows tan.

If I submit this costume under the current CRL as written, would it be approved with tan?

http://www.rebellegion.com/about_standards2.php?id=8863

G'nott sH'urr (David Campbell) · Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 11:56 pm Post subject:

necro-ing.

its been about a year from previous discussion, and i intentionally shelved this project because I diddnt see a point in going forward.

The CRL calls for tan or grey. I know there is the claim that its grey, however all of my photos and even my deleted scenes figure are tan.
Screen-seen on every platform I have viewed it on , shows tan.

If I submit this costume under the current CRL as written, would it be approved with tan?

http://www.rebellegion.com/about_standards2.php?id=8863

Schph Gochi (Phyllis Schulte) · Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 9:46 am Post subject:

the gray vs tan color discussion is one that never ends.

If you look at the photos presented in the first post, some are decidedly gray looking and some do shift toward tan...but never really appearing completely tan.

Since no one can say what color the suit really is, the standard was written more toward what is seen....
no one knows what color they really were...

so....since the costume standard says gray....
then if you submit a tan suit...it would not be approved as formal...
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G'nott sH'urr (David Campbell) · Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 1:04 pm Post subject:

Schph Gochi (Phyllis Schulte) · Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 1:37 pm Post subject:

one thing to note is this post on page 5 from an individual who actually wore the costume:

Mac Bragg () · Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 6:24 pm Post subject:

The two might be different.

Coveralls may be the gray ones in storage from the first two movies, and reused to save money and time.

A lot of the new wardrobe for rebels in Jedi is tan/khaki - Generals Nadine and Calrissian, all of the commandos - Tan uniforms with "field expedient" camouflage. So the two-piece uniforms may well indeed be tan.
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Schph Gochi (Phyllis Schulte) · Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 9:12 pm Post subject:

again...sorry....

I didn't read everything...
if the Costume standard states tan...

then tan would be acceptable...

it has been quite awhile since the standard was written and since no one else has submitted one of the costumes...it is not something I have looked at since it was written...
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G'nott sH'urr (David Campbell) · Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 12:56 am Post subject:

thanks to all for the replies on this topic. As a former GML I study a ton of CRLs and look at every scene for the ref pics. I also scour the net for behind the scenes pics and have a small collection of those that show a lot of color variation. What gets me is that Imperial IC grey is clearly grey but we get more of a taupe shade with Rebel uniforms.

I agree with Mr Butterfield that his costume was grey, but I see so much variation in the ROTJ uniforms that I also agree with Mac Bragg that there were two different styles of uniform. Costume costs add up especially when you need several "throwaway" characters in a scene that lasts only a few feet of film. Off the shelf work cloths with pockets scabbed onto the legs are quick and simple vs making new coveralls.

Looking at this part of the CRL,
Required:

1. Gray or tan jumpsuit with 4 leg pockets in front and a tabbed closure collar and tabbed closure on sleeves.

would it be possible to take a look at the CRL again and clarify that the tan would be acceptable as the two piece uniform?

Also, one additional question:

Which particular rank badge is correct for this? I understand there are different types of ROTJ Endor rank badges.
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TrooperPX (David Ramsay) · Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 3:11 pm Post subject:

Hmmm... just need to make an Endor vest, which I was going to anyway.

I feel another costume coming on. Wink

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