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Boudicca (Jennifer Bagosy)
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 9:53 pm    Post subject: Questions regarding Fleet Officer shirt bib & pants stri Reply with quote

So after three months of trooping in the SoCal summer heat, my husband decided to start a Fleet Officer.

Anyway, we have all the components for the soft parts. The pants, the black elastic ribbon for the stripes, the BDU jacket, fabric for the yoke, and of course, two identical brown button-up shirts for conversion.

My first question is about the brown shirt. I know the method a lot of people use is to cut out the back of one of the shirts and sew it to the front of the other to create the bib and hide the buttons. But after looking at build threads and member photos, I can't quite tell how far across on each side the bib should extend? Also, does it permanently attach on one side and snap shut on the other? Or does it permanently attach on both sides, so you have to pull the shirt over rather than buttoning it up and using the bib to hide it? Thoughts - and especially close-up photos - appreciated!

Second question is regarding the pants stripes. I have a standard sewing machine, which doesn't swivel sew "east-west" - so I can't use it to sew on the stripes. I know there's such a thing as fusible web tape, which I assume would turn the stripes into iron-ons, but has anyone tried this? Would it actually work to affix the stripes permanently, or is this stuff intended for temporary fixes only?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to have not seen this sooner..

I used a dark brown grossgrain fabric ribbon on my pants. Sew the outer seam on the pants sew on the ribbon..
then sew up the seam on the inside.


As far as the bibb...it is kind of a moot point as the jacket will cover up the actual width of the bibb...
I sewed the bibb on up one side and across the top to right where the inner shirt buttons...
I also used a small strip of velcro to keep the top of the inner shirt in place and then sewed up the other side of the bibb to the inner shirt and left just enough room to get the shirt on over my head...and finished off with a couple of snaps...

Since I found some dark brown shirts for REALLY cheap...I bought 4 and made a sleeved version for formal events...
and a sleveless version for warmer events...
you really can't tell under the jacket..


Here are the shirts:






the completed project



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Schph Gochi wrote:
I used a dark brown grossgrain fabric ribbon on my pants. Sew the outer seam on the pants sew on the ribbon..
then sew up the seam on the inside.




I don´t understand this, Phyllis!
Could you post a drawing or something similar for a better explanation?
I often thought of sewing stripes to a pant, but didn´t know how to!
Do I have to open the pants seam before? Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

those instructions were for IF you were sewing pants from scratch...

If you already have pants sewn...

you have to open the seam that runs up the inside of both legs and across the crotch....

this allows the legs to lay flat and you can then stitch the ribbon on...

then once the ribbon is on.....
all you do is turn the pants inside out and re-sew that seam that runs up the inside of both legs....
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FYI I had pre-sewn pants also. I ended up using black ribbon (my husband preferred the black option over the brown). I used fusible web tape to affix it.

So far my husband has done 1 troop in it, and it hed up well, except that the ribbons are starting to come up at the top. So I will need to reinforce by hand-stitching at the top. The rest of the ribbon seems to be on there pretty solidly.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Schph Gochi wrote:
those instructions were for IF you were sewing pants from scratch...

If you already have pants sewn...

you have to open the seam that runs up the inside of both legs and across the crotch....

this allows the legs to lay flat and you can then stitch the ribbon on...

then once the ribbon is on.....
all you do is turn the pants inside out and re-sew that seam that runs up the inside of both legs....


OK, now I understand !
Thank you very much...not so easy to learn sewing only by doing!

Thank you, too, Boudicca, for sharing your experiences with the "glueing" ribbon!
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okami Dai wrote:
not so easy to learn sewing only by doing!




Truth be told...that is exactly how I have learned...
when I made my first Jedi costume in 1999 - I had never sewn...didn't have a sewing machine...but was determined...
so..
I learned by doing..
and sewed my first costume by hand..

Wink

I have made loads of mistakes over the years..
and have done many things 2, 3 and 4 times...
.but...
that is a great way to learn...

Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup!
So I will try to make the sleeves of my Madine uniform for the 4th (!) time...after sewing the jacket body for 2 times...
As you said: A great way to learn! Razz
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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry for using this thread for showing my pictures, but it fits the topic!

Thats what I have so far for my (informal) Rebel Fleet officer uniform:



The black stripes are 4,5 cm wide, the front bib shirt is made of two old brown austrian army shirts from the 80ies. As the ugly parts of the shirt (where the breast pockets have been) will be covered by the jacket this is no problem for me.
Belt comes from my RFT costume...
Next step is to find a matching fabric for the uniform jacket!
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