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UK Chewie build – mesh fabric question
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 12:01 pm    Post subject: UK Chewie build – mesh fabric question Reply with quote

Hey guys

I’m part of the UKG and making a Chewie costume, not enough of them over on this side of the pond Smile I have a question about what type of mesh material to use to latch hook all the hair into.

I’ve currently got a large supply of this:



Does it look ok ?

I worry its not stiff enough, as you can see my by first attempt at hooking the hair into it, it really bunches up and… well, is this normal ? Smile

How ridged should the fabric be? I found it pretty hard to locate what I’ve got. Not a widely used material, hard to come by. Id ask what fabric you guys use but I doubt id be able to order it over here Sad

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is where I was recommended to get mine from:

http://www.collinscottage.com/utilitya.htm

I haven't gotten it yet so can't chime in on how good it is, but they do ship to England.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, looks great... ill order some and see how it looks when it arrives.

Thanks! It definatly looks sturdier than my current fabric.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The local Wookiee told me this wouldn't be a bad material to use, too:
http://www.perfectfit.com/12905/225364/Boat-Toppings/Mesh-Fabric----Black----60-wide.html

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="WookieeGunner"]This is where I was recommended to get mine from:

http://www.collinscottage.com/utilitya.htm

This is where I got mine from. Very,very tough and ridged enough.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 3:12 pm    Post subject: Re: UK Chewie build – mesh fabric question Reply with quote

Sevv wrote:
Hey guys

I’m part of the UKG and making a Chewie costume, not enough of them over on this side of the pond Smile I have a question about what type of mesh material to use to latch hook all the hair into.

I’ve currently got a large supply of this:



Does it look ok ?

I worry its not stiff enough, as you can see my by first attempt at hooking the hair into it, it really bunches up and… well, is this normal ? Smile

How ridged should the fabric be? I found it pretty hard to locate what I’ve got. Not a widely used material, hard to come by. Id ask what fabric you guys use but I doubt id be able to order it over here Sad

Cheers


a soft kinda fabric he made an undersuit ... the suit he did another loose fabric which had a wider mesh than normal


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would recommend talking to the following 3 RL members as well as the advise of those that have already posted will be helpful to you

GotWookie (Matt P.)
SoloYT1300 (Bob Kohn)
and Duck

These 3 have lots of experience with Wookies and would be a valuable asset to you. GotWookie is the Legion Costume Judge for Wookies.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 3:58 pm    Post subject: Re: UK Chewie build – mesh fabric question Reply with quote

Sevv wrote:
Hey guys

I’m part of the UKG and making a Chewie costume, not enough of them over on this side of the pond Smile I have a question about what type of mesh material to use to latch hook all the hair into.

I’ve currently got a large supply of this:



Does it look ok ?

I worry its not stiff enough, as you can see my by first attempt at hooking the hair into it, it really bunches up and… well, is this normal ? Smile

How ridged should the fabric be? I found it pretty hard to locate what I’ve got. Not a widely used material, hard to come by. Id ask what fabric you guys use but I doubt id be able to order it over here Sad

Cheers


I think the issue with your fabric of choice is that the holes are not close enough to each other. Too much fabric is between the holes if you will. When you latch your hair on it, that excess fabric is causing it to bunch up. If you look at the other fabrics posted, the fabric between the holes are allot less... causing less bunching up. I do not think its about how stiff the fabric is, as to how strong it is. There are a few places to get good netting... read up on some of the other threads on wookiee builds to save you some time and money. I know Duck put together a pretty good thread... and Matt P has a really good resource forum. I would also advise you get on the Yahoo group for Wookiees.

If you need more info, let me know via PM... and I will try and help yah get started.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, there is way too much fabric there. Remember that when you tie the hair it will bunch up a little and shrink the size of the suit. On the netting we are using it isn't that much. Just enough to make it a little snug.

But on yours you could very well end up making it substantially smaller.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the help guys! Ive bought a load of this:

http://www.collinscottage.com/utilitya.htm

Seems to be what people are using. Hope it arrives soon, although ive got a few weeks before my hair turns up..

If ive got anymore questions ill definatly ask, appreciated! Im well on my way to finishing my feet / hands / bandolier and bowcaster. My skin is ready to mould on my skull... all coming along nicely Smile I want to get everything ready to go for when the hair arrives.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 6:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just to chime in and say how good the mesh fabric is from www.collinscottage.com and super quick delivery too. I'm in Ireland and it only took less than a week.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello,

I just found this link and I am planning on making a purchase from Collins Cottage as so many of you recommended. I am not sure how much to purchase though as I have only rarely worked with fabric before.

My wookiee is going to be around 7'6" and I was thinking about getting 6 yards. to make a two piece suit. Doest that sound right?

Thanks
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are not sure how much fabric to get in any costume ... all you have to do is go to a fabric store and look at a pattern of a garment that represents ( In size) what you are making. In your case your making a suit ( 2 piece). So look at patterns or that type and on the flap or the back of most patterns it will tell you exactly how much fabric you will need... per size. You do not even have to buy the pattern!



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you again Robert, you have been very helpful!
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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2011 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For those of you who are stuck unable to get the black Mesh fabric, you can still go the route of dying the fabric.

There are many types of dyes and it is important to get the right kind. A natural dye will have little to no effect on a fabric like the mesh webbing we use for these costumes. You will need to get Dye that is meant for 100% polyester fabric.
Scroll to the bottom of the page on this like to
dharmatrading.com and you will see a variety of dyes to choose from. Polyester dyes are not rare and you should be able to get the proper dye at your local fabric store.

Note for people who are dying this webbing:

Before you dye any fabric you must remove any and all chemicals that are on the fabric first. This is a standard practice for anyone who dyes any kind of fabric and this is no different for Synthetic fabrics as well. To be honest all fabrics for any costuming project should be washed before construction to allow for shrinkage. Nothing is sadder than to finish a costume, and wash it later and then have it shrink on yah... *Facepalm*.

So... before dying mesh fabric… wash in HOT water, and use your heavy cycles with the most agitation.

Dry fabric completely before you start any dye baths to remove any left over chemicals or impurities.

Follow instructions on the Dye you buy... not all dyes are created equal!





Here is an example of dying a Polyester... on your stove if you don't wanna risk you washing machine.


Instructions

Things You'll Need
· Rubber/latex gloves
· Apron
· Five gallon stainless steel pot
· Three separate steel pots, small to medium sized
· Disperse Dye (can be found at clothing and craft stores)
· Utensils to use in the dye that will not be used for cooking again
· Dye Carrier NSC
· Distilled white vinegar
· Synthrapol
· Dye activator


1 Make sure you have a well-ventilated area before you begin dyeing the polyester. Put on the latex or rubber gloves to protect your hands. Wash the polyester fabric in the 5 gallon pot on the stove. Once the water starts to warm up, add a small handful of soda ash and 3 ml Synthrapol per pound of fabric. Let the fabric boil in this mixture for about 10 minutes in order to remove dirt and oils from the polyester.

2 Remove the polyester from the pot and set aside. Next, in a separate pot, boil 1 cup of water and then add the dye to the water. The amount of dye you add depends on the brand of dye and color. For example, for light colors, dissolve 1.3 gm in the water; for dark shades, dissolve 8 to 15 gm. In another separate small pot, place 2 to 3 tbsp. of the dye carrier in 1 cup of boiling water.

3 Set the 5 gallon steel pot back on the stove top. For every 2.5 gallons of boiling water, add 2.5 ml Synthrapol, 10 tsp. white vinegar, the diluted dye carrier from the second pot in Step 2 and the dye. Add them in this order. Stir the water completely before adding each ingredient with the utensils.

4 Place the polyester into this large pot, and make sure it is brought to a boil while stirring. Simmer about 35 to 40 minutes (this all depends on what shade you want the polyester to be). Sift the utensil around in the pot, shifting the fabric so dye gets to all angles.

5 Bring a second pot of water to boil while your polyester fabric is simmering. It just needs to be large enough to hold enough water to cover the fabric. After the fabric is finished, immediately transfer the fabric to this second boiling pot of water. This is to help remove the chemical odors from the polyester.

6 Drain the 5 gallon pot with the dyed water carefully into a sink. Rinse out the pot, and refill it with water. Bring it to boil again and add 3 ml Synthrapol. Transfer the polyester back to this pot and stir for about 10 minutes. Remove the fabric, and rinse in hot water in the sink.

7 Dry the polyester as usual, whether it is a line dry or in the machine dryer.

Instruction found on www.ehow.com.



How that helps a few of you out.


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