About Us Members Unit Listing Events Costuming Resources Forum Contact Us Trading Cards
 

Forum and Costume Controls

   FAQFAQ  SearchSearch  MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups  medals.php?sid=3a034d3d2cae14cafa9835c210d355c8Medals   RegisterRegister   ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in

       
REMINDER: Do not change your e-mail address yourself. Please read this first for why.

Hasbro Rebel Fleet Trooper Dart Gun
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4  Next
 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Rebel Legion Forum Index -> Costume and Prop Making -> Rebel Alliance Infantry Detachment -> A New Hope
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
JimE2 ()
Archived Member Profile


Joined: 01 Nov 2005
Posts: 113

Medals: None

PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any interest in a solid casting of a slightly modified one? We too are needing about a 1/2 dozen of these things for our fan film. I have my Hasbro blaster than I'm thinking I'll replace the grip with a Sterling one, and extend the back of the tube about 1 inch.

If this sounds like something other folks might want, I can ramp up the production on it.

Things have been delayed a bit on this particular project due to filming scheduling issues.

Thoughts?

Jim
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website AIM Address
Schph Gochi (Phyllis Schulte)
Nar Shaddaa Base XO
Nar Shaddaa Base XO


Joined: 18 Aug 2002
Posts: 12134
Location: Mokena IL
Medals: 11 (View more...)
Colorado Wildfires 2012 Relief Award (Amount: 2)

PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

looky here...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180347068456&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123


Well, Jim..

My opinion.....which is only one voice...
is that as long as the Hasbro version is still out there (though the supply seems to be drying up) even in limited quantities then I am not sure about doing a solid casting.....

One never knows if/when Hasbro will re-release something in new packaging also...
_________________


http://livefromthegalaxyfarfaraway.blogspot.com/
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Shivannd (Joel Webne)
Active Legion Member


Joined: 03 Jan 2007
Posts: 8097
Location: Virginia
Medals: 3 (View more...)
Rebel Legion CV Supporter (Amount: 1)

PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 12:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Schph Gochi wrote:
looky here...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180347068456&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123


Well, Jim..

My opinion.....which is only one voice...
is that as long as the Hasbro version is still out there (though the supply seems to be drying up) even in limited quantities then I am not sure about doing a solid casting.....

One never knows if/when Hasbro will re-release something in new packaging also...


Thats a great deal for $46 for the blaster and shipping. I woudl snatch it up if you can esp since it has been colored and such.
Good Luck
_________________
"Why, you stuck up,..half-witted,..scruffy-looking,..nerf-herder!"..."Who's scruffy-looking?"
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger
Obey Wann (William Blackburn)
Active Legion Member


Joined: 01 Jun 2002
Posts: 3237

Medals: 1 (View more...)
Colorado Wildfires 2012 Relief Award (Amount: 1)

PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 1:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jim --in a way, I'm kinda surprised no one has done this yet. Now, I sincerely hope that Hasbro starts getting these in the stores again soon, but if not... Mad

Now this is just a thought, but would it be possible to make certain parts out of resin, but maybe do a PVC base, just so it's not a 100% solid resin cast? It seems like those are both heavy and very fragile --but I've never carried one myself. just watched others drop them and have parts shatter.

Or are there other materials out there that are a little more wear friendly? I know my JM3 is made out of something that is near unbreakable, and it was rotocast or slush cast. Would that be an option instead of the more brittle resins?
_________________
www.blackburn-photography.com

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Volund Starfire (Jason Ellenburg)
Active Legion Member


Joined: 21 Oct 2007
Posts: 1014
Location: Newberg, Oregon
Medals: None

PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 3:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, if you are shooting for a resin version, why not do one with the 1:1 based off of the movie measurements rather than the smaller Hasbro ones?
_________________
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Grey Jedi (Donna Keeley)
Active Legion Member


Joined: 14 Nov 2002
Posts: 7478

Medals: 5 (View more...)
Rebel Legion CV Supporter (Amount: 1)

PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 3:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My custom-made DH-17 is PVC pipe, wood, and resin. It's a nice mixture of weight and stability. The scope is the only resin piece because it's cast from a real rifle scope. The barrel end piece can be made from a furniture leg.


_________________
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
JimE2 ()
Archived Member Profile


Joined: 01 Nov 2005
Posts: 113

Medals: None

PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks to everyone that has posted. Here's what we ran into:

1. The local/regional supply of the Hasbro blasters dried up.
2. The secondary/online market is now pretty expensive compared to what we need, a cheap but good looking prop.
3. We are considering taking the grip assembly off the Hasbro Nerf gun, extending the tube slightly, towards the rear endcap, and then casting these in black resin OR in expanding rigid UEF foam. I think I can get the cost down to around $15. Maybe less.
4. If not modifying the Hasbro, then we can just solid cast them as is, or even make background vac-formed versions as our production just does not have the funds or the time to scratch build or buy any more Hasbro versions.
5. We have no need for them to function.
6. I already have the grip/trigger assembly, and in my opinion is really the big issue I have with this version gun. That, and the endcap is to close to the gip by about an inch.

I appreciate everyone's feedback on this. It does not sound like there's much interest in a run. Thats cool.

Jim
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website AIM Address
Schph Gochi (Phyllis Schulte)
Nar Shaddaa Base XO
Nar Shaddaa Base XO


Joined: 18 Aug 2002
Posts: 12134
Location: Mokena IL
Medals: 11 (View more...)
Celebration Europe 2 (Amount: 1)

PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What I will do is send out a special notice to all of the folks at the "Tantive" Yahoo Group ....

there may be some members of the Yahoo Group that are still working on finishing their RFT and are out there looking for a blaster..
and just haven't said anything...

couldn't hurt...

Wink
_________________


http://livefromthegalaxyfarfaraway.blogspot.com/
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Obey Wann (William Blackburn)
Active Legion Member


Joined: 01 Jun 2002
Posts: 3237

Medals: 1 (View more...)
Colorado Wildfires 2012 Relief Award (Amount: 1)

PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jim, I think there might be interest... just give it time. I have seen a lot of people run into issues with the Hasbro nerf DH-17 being more difficult to find. And for our Canadian friends, downright impossible since Amazon won't ship there.

And this affects a lot more than just RFTs... X-Wing pilots and even some Imperials use the DH-17.

I do kinda like the idea of just a vac formed blaster, similar to the Cushman larger ones. If someone were to do that, I think it could easily be filled in with a section of PVC for rigidity along the long end, and then filled with expanding foam to fill it up a bit more. It would work fine, plus could clean up some of the issues with the "Star Wars" logo being on the side and the shortness of the grip end.

If you were to make it out of thin styrene, it shouldn't cost too much or be too difficult.

I have a hunch that if you make it, people will buy it.

But that's just me....
_________________
www.blackburn-photography.com

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Endorscout64
Guest







PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very interested is this topic. I am working on my kit, and been in email conversation with TK560.com with a helmet order. I have a blaster already, but I don't mind having a spare.

Tim
Back to top
AMP (Tony Perez)
Kessel Base CO
Kessel Base CO


Joined: 01 Feb 2007
Posts: 1471
Location: San Antonio, TX
Medals: 1 (View more...)
Rebel Legion CV Supporter (Amount: 1)

PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it were done in semi rigid rubber with an armature & the armature wouldn’t have to be anything more than common thread rod. That would be awesome and I would certainly be in for one.
_________________


It's not the years, it's the mileage.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message AIM Address Yahoo Messenger
Shivannd (Joel Webne)
Active Legion Member


Joined: 03 Jan 2007
Posts: 8097
Location: Virginia
Medals: 3 (View more...)
Rebel Legion CV Supporter (Amount: 1)

PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AMP wrote:
If it were done in semi rigid rubber with an armature & the armature wouldn’t have to be anything more than common thread rod. That would be awesome and I would certainly be in for one.


I am curious how easy it would be to do something similar to the Hyperfirm blasters by making a mold and then using the Rubber Silicone reinforced down the middle with a wood dowel for rigidity.
Is that even possible?
_________________
"Why, you stuck up,..half-witted,..scruffy-looking,..nerf-herder!"..."Who's scruffy-looking?"
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger
JimE2 ()
Archived Member Profile


Joined: 01 Nov 2005
Posts: 113

Medals: None

PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you Phyllis, and thanks to everyone with their ideas. Right now I see several options, one is a simple solid casting of the as-is Hasbro blaster. That would be cheap and easy to do. Secondly, a customized version, that is more accurate. Thirdly, a really affordable lightweight 'cushman' style vacuum formed version. OR a 'Kit' built on a PVC pipe.

Good ideas everyone, time for me to think what is doable.

Jim
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website AIM Address
AMP (Tony Perez)
Kessel Base CO
Kessel Base CO


Joined: 01 Feb 2007
Posts: 1471
Location: San Antonio, TX
Medals: 1 (View more...)
Rebel Legion CV Supporter (Amount: 1)

PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shivannd wrote:

I am curious how easy it would be to do something similar to the Hyperfirm blasters by making a mold and then using the Rubber Silicone reinforced down the middle with a wood dowel for rigidity.
Is that even possible?


Well if he were making molds for solid resin, it would be the same process.
I didn't want to use the term "hyperfirm" since that is a proprietary formula. But there are other pourable semi rigid rubbers available.
_________________


It's not the years, it's the mileage.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message AIM Address Yahoo Messenger
a davenport (Anne Davenport)
Active Legion Member


Joined: 25 Oct 2004
Posts: 736

Medals: None

PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I second the suggestion about the blaster not being solid with some hollow parts to save on weight.

I have a solid resin blaster and it looks good and haven't had any problems with it, except the weight. Airlines charge for every ounce of weigh for checked baggage and anything that looks like a blaster MUST be checked. BTW, Greyhound limits you to 50 lbs per bag, too, or they charge an extra fee.

Would I be too greedy to hope that some light and sound could be put in? Perhaps cannibalized from some other toy blaster?

At CIV I got into into a hallway confrontation of toy blasters with a stormie and he had light and sound and I had nothing, leaving me with serious blaster-envy.
_________________

Your focus determines who you are.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Rebel Legion Forum Index -> Costume and Prop Making -> Rebel Alliance Infantry Detachment -> A New Hope All times are GMT
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4  Next
Page 3 of 4

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You can post calendar events in this forum
The Rebel Legion is a worldwide Star Wars costuming organization comprised of and operated by Star Wars fans. While not sponsored by Lucasfilm Ltd., it is Lucasfilm's preferred volunteer Rebel costuming group. Star Wars, its characters, costumes, and all associated items are the intellectual property of Lucasfilm. © 2014 Lucasfilm Ltd. & ™ All rights reserved. Used under authorization.


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group