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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 1:09 am    Post subject: Dimensions for chest box? Reply with quote

I'm new to costuming, and therefore working on my first chest box. I have looked all over, and I can't find any actual MEASUREMENTS on what size the chest box is supposed to be! Maybe I'm just a noob, and maybe it's my anal-retentive need to have a number I can physically measure on a block of wood (or suitable ABS alternative).

Can someone measure their box and reply with numbers? If I knew anyone with one, I'd just hand 'em a ruler, but AFAIK I'm the only person in my town doing this...

Thanks for the help! I'm really excited about building a costume and joining the Rebel Legion!
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I made my own chest box by gluing sheets of styrene together.

Edit: Hmm.. It seems I never drew any blueprint, sorry.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can order a kit from Jim for very little. That would be the way to go. If you want his info, PM me.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is my home-made chest box, and measurements. I think it would be easiest to show it this way rather than to draft a blueprint ...



The only real measurements I have are of the rocker switches. The same type of switches are seen in many places in Star Wars Ep IV, including Darth Vader's chest box. A fan had managed to get a cast of a real Vader chest box and measure it. I have scaled from them when looking at photos of Rebel pilot chest boxes. Because all of them had been taken at angles, my measurements are not too precise. Other people's chest boxes may be slightly different.
The rocker switch is 48 mm long, 17.5 mm wide. 9 mm high at the highest places and 5 mm high in the middle. The top and bottom faces are 10 mm high and sloping. They do not meet the forward faces at a right angle. The forward faces are 22 mm long.

I have added lines to show how different features could be aligned to eachother. Not all chest boxes in the movies have features precisely aligned this way. This is only what I think is the most common.

You could swap the colors of the rocker switches and the positions of the small circles as long as the leftmost and the rightmost are the same and different from the one in the middle.
The one in the middle could either be shaped like the other two, or straight on the top and higher in one end (like I did it).

The non-white squares could either be both blue or one red and one green.
The leftmost white pinstripe could be inside the black rectangle, or cross over the grey tab in the black field.

I bought the metal knobs from Elvistrooper. I got the "Cone Knob with offset disk" and "Tie Jack". I find that the knurled knob is most often placed to the right on its disk. Many people use a button snap or rivet instead of buying a "Tie Jack" - it has almost the same shape.

The straps are 1 inch wide. They are dark olive drab, but they most often look black on camera, so most people use black. Use heavy straps of a natural fiber if you can find them. (I have not)
This adjuster from Strapworks.com looks accurate for the one that is used to adjust the straps in the back. I used a Swedish military buckle that looks just like it. It should be silvery.

My dishwasher drain hose has an outer diameter that is slightly smaller than one inch. I made the hole for it in the box slightly smaller than the hose, so that the hose fits snugly. I also put a metal pin on the inside, straight through the hose.

The box and hose should be in a medium grey color with a slight blue tint ("smoke grey"). ( I used a primer which had that color... but then I used a clearcoat with a slight yellowness in it, which canceled the blue tint. Confused )
I painted my white pin-stripes by masking with masking tape and spray painting first the horizontal lines, then the vertical lines. You could also use narrow pinstriping tape from a RC model stores - that is what they used in the movies, and I think that is easier to apply than painting.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 4:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Terrific-- thank you! that will be a big help.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of the Canadian base members has a flat pattern made... I'll see about getting it posted... you sould simply have to print it to scale and then cut the pieces from ABS/Styrene and then glue them together...
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 2:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Posting that would be terrific! I'm really glad I started reading these forums... there's a LOT more information here than out in web sites... Everything out there says "go to richie's armor and buy..." Well, Richie's Armor doesn't actually sell anything...

Thanks, everyone, for your help so far!
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 4:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Richie's Armor does sell things. Just because there are no prices posted doesn't mean anything, why else would people be pointed in that direction?

There are other vendors to use as well, as you are no doubt finding out though.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 2:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Darth Lars wrote:
This is my home-made chest box, and measurements. I think it would be easiest to show it this way rather than to draft a blueprint ...



The only real measurements I have are of the rocker switches. The same type of switches are seen in many places in Star Wars Ep IV, including Darth Vader's chest box. A fan had managed to get a cast of a real Vader chest box and measure it. I have scaled from them when looking at photos of Rebel pilot chest boxes. Because all of them had been taken at angles, my measurements are not too precise. Other people's chest boxes may be slightly different.
The rocker switch is 48 mm long, 17.5 mm wide. 9 mm high at the highest places and 5 mm high in the middle. The top and bottom faces are 10 mm high and sloping. They do not meet the forward faces at a right angle. The forward faces are 22 mm long.

I have added lines to show how different features could be aligned to eachother. Not all chest boxes in the movies have features precisely aligned this way. This is only what I think is the most common.

You could swap the colors of the rocker switches and the positions of the small circles as long as the leftmost and the rightmost are the same and different from the one in the middle.
The one in the middle could either be shaped like the other two, or straight on the top and higher in one end (like I did it).

The non-white squares could either be both blue or one red and one green.
The leftmost white pinstripe could be inside the black rectangle, or cross over the grey tab in the black field.

I bought the metal knobs from Elvistrooper. I got the "Cone Knob with offset disk" and "Tie Jack". I find that the knurled knob is most often placed to the right on its disk. Many people use a button snap or rivet instead of buying a "Tie Jack" - it has almost the same shape.

The straps are 1 inch wide. They are dark olive drab, but they most often look black on camera, so most people use black. Use heavy straps of a natural fiber if you can find them. (I have not)
This adjuster from Strapworks.com looks accurate for the one that is used to adjust the straps in the back. I used a Swedish military buckle that looks just like it. It should be silvery.

My dishwasher drain hose has an outer diameter that is slightly smaller than one inch. I made the hole for it in the box slightly smaller than the hose, so that the hose fits snugly. I also put a metal pin on the inside, straight through the hose.

The box and hose should be in a medium grey color with a slight blue tint ("smoke grey"). ( I used a primer which had that color... but then I used a clearcoat with a slight yellowness in it, which canceled the blue tint. Confused )
I painted my white pin-stripes by masking with masking tape and spray painting first the horizontal lines, then the vertical lines. You could also use narrow pinstriping tape from a RC model stores - that is what they used in the movies, and I think that is easier to apply than painting.


nice dimensional drawing...but in the tutorials it calls for a much larger box..which concerns me, just wondering what are the actual measurements?
Anyone care to chime in with theirs?
Am building one and wants to make sure , at least resonablly , of the correct size

thanks
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You need to request a price list from Richie and he will email it to you.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Orin Mallix wrote:
You need to request a price list from Richie and he will email it to you.


he will email me dimensions?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

darkblade wrote:
nice dimensional drawing...but in the tutorials it calls for a much larger box..which concerns me, just wondering what are the actual measurements?

I recall that the only other blueprint that I have seen was about 1/4" larger on each side than mine. Sorry, I don't have a link.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 3:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Darth Lars wrote:
darkblade wrote:
nice dimensional drawing...but in the tutorials it calls for a much larger box..which concerns me, just wondering what are the actual measurements?

I recall that the only other blueprint that I have seen was about 1/4" larger on each side than mine. Sorry, I don't have a link.


thanks DL, yea the dimensions you posted seem alot closer than the wooden tutorial I have found

8" x 9.5" just seemed much to big...

was just wondering if anyone could take a minute, measure their overall box size...w x h x L to get a good comparison as to what is out there Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That, I'm not sure about. Wouldn't hurt to ask, though.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 2:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bump for your measurements Smile
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