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|Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:14 am Post subject: Revised Y-Wing (RotJ) standards
|Pretty much the same run-down as the A-wing, just changed for Y-wing. I do defer on the details of the vest though, as I haven't yet built one or studied it enough to be an authority. Here are my revision proposals, with the current one first, followed by my proposal:
1. THE SUIT
CURRENT STANDARD: Grey/Light Grey flightsuit with either a mandarin-style collar (with pointed tab) or the same tab under another flipped up collar
*Correct arm pockets (shaped code cylinder pocket on upper left arm
*Rectangular pocket with a squared-flap closure on upper right arm)
*Thigh pockets with squared-flap closures (upper set required, lower set optional)
*No visible zippers or snaps
PROPOSED STANDARD: Pale-gray flightsuit with correct pockets and reinforcements. Imperial style (AT-ST/Tech/Scanning crew) are NO LONGER accepted for new submissions. The fabric should be a twill or solid medium-weight fabric, and pocket and reinforcing seams should be double-stitched around edges (ala blue jeans).
*Collar has rounded edges, and can either be worn flipped down, or up with keeper tab underneath to close.
*Zipper is hidden by a placket, and the opening SHOULD open towards the left (traditionally female), but can optionally open to the right.
*Left upper arm has a small, layered "pen" pocket. It is angled at a roughly 75-degree angle, centered on the upper arm. The bottom/outer pocket is squared on the bottom edges, 6-7" long and 5" wide. The middle & top pieces should be about 3"x4.5", with both made each with 2 slots for pens or similar devices (NOTE: RotJ Y-wing pilots do NOT use the code cylinders found on orange X-wing pilots).
*Yoke seam along top chest... optional for back.
*Angled reinforcing panels stitched to the upper body, between yoke seam and waist. These can also have the option of being turned into hidden slash pockets, leaving the seams on the sides open.
*Elastic draw around waist.
*Large cargo pockets, one on each upper leg. These are patch type, sewn flat to the leg, with a flat rectangular flap. These should measure 7-8" wide, 9-10" long, depending on size of suit.
*Lower-leg reinforcing panels, one on each leg. These are trapezoid shaped panels, with the small narrow point (about 4" wide) stitched right above the knee, and the bottom part stitched into the leg seams, covering the whole lower front leg.
*Arm cuffs (about 1.5" wide) should have a draw closure similar to the X-wing, with velcro and pointed ends.
*Leg cuffs should be open with plain cuff.
*No visible zippers or snaps.
CURRENT STANDARD: Light Tan, Beige, or Taupe cloth or canvas spats over black boots
Leather spats are not acceptable
Spat height should be mid-calf to just under the knee and fall all the way down
Spats should feature an additional strap (w/no buckle) of the same or similar material, running around the length around the calf approximately 1/8-1/4 down from the top of the spat
Spats may feature single or double seam running down the front or back
No laces should be visible
One pair of lower-leg coverings about 12-14" long (depending on wearer's height), made of a tight-woven material, vinyl, or similar. The color should be light tan or pale beige, with liberal weathering encouraged. Each gaiter is constructed in two halves, or with one piece that wraps around and comes together in the front. The front edges are padded (about 3/8"/1cm) and have a small gap down the center. The bottom edges should be angled to sit over the top of the boots, and ride about 1" above the bottom of the heel. The top is even all around.
*Length depends on wearer's height, but should start just below the knee. Normal length, roughly 12-14".
*A 1 to 1-1/4" wide strap, made from the same material as the gaiters, wraps around each legging at a slight angle, with the lower part about 3" from the top edge, and the higher part attached to the back about 2" from the top. A metal or metal-like slide buckle is mounted center-back.
*A 3/4" black plastic side-release buckle is mounted vertically and flat just to the side of the front edge, about 1". This will be on the right side for the right gaiter, and left for the left gaiter, and mounted between the top edge and the strap. (This is purely a decorative "greeblie", just tacked down to the surface.)
*No other visible buckles, snaps, or other closures.
NOTE: It is recommended to attach the leggings to the legs of the suit via velcro, snaps, magnets, etc to keep them from moving around or falling off.
CURRENT STANDARD: Boots should be mid-calf black boots (Jack boots or engineer boots are acceptable
Leather pull-on style preferred with low heels
No ankle buckles (small buckle at top edge of boot allowable if covered by blousing)
No non-black zippers. Any zipper closure must either be hidden or on the inside calf
No zippers on front or outside calf of boots
High-Calf and Low-Calf boots are acceptable if fully covered by the spats
PROPOSED STANDARD: Any kind of black leather or leather-like boots with rounded toe, and no visible laces, buckles, straps, or zippers. The boots may have such closures above ankle-height, as long as the gaiters will fully cover them.
CURRENT STANDARD: Belt may be off-white and is to buckle at the front or back with a black snap-release buckle
PROPOSED STANDARD: The belt is made of 2” white webbing, the same as the ejection straps.
*A short section of 2” white webbing is layered over the front center of the belt, with two black triangle safety stitches that point inward.
*Six flare loops made of 1” white webbing off to the wearer’s right side of the belt. At least 3 mini-flares (metal or painted dowel rods) be mounted in the flare loops.
*2” black plastic or metal side-release buckle on the BACK of the belt.
4B: EJECTION STRAPS:
CURRENT STANDARD: Leg loops are individual per leg and split at the waist. Belt is worn over the harness
PROPOSED STANDARD: Both straps are made of 2" white webbing, same as the belt.
*Constructed as one large loop, with one end stitched around the center of a thin metal 2" slide buckle, and the other end coming together with the other strap end and both stitched to the bottom of the vest. The leg loops are formed by passing the long end through the slide buckle. The leg loops should hang freely around the knees of the wearer.
*When worn, the ejection straps are UNDER the belt in the front, roughly at the wearer's belly level.
VEST: I was going to defer to someone who is more intimate with the Y-wing vest, to do that part.
CURRENT STANDARD: Black gauntlet-style gloves (flared leather or pleather preferred, cloth or rubber gloves will not meet standards)
GOOD.... keep same
FORMAL REQUIREMENTS – (CURRENT STANDARD)
1. Y-Wing helmet with Star Wars-style decoration
2. Mini-flares on web belt – a mix of filled and empty slots are okay
3. Accurate Comm Pad (size, details, 3-dimensional, colouration, etc.) visible in the correct comm pad pocket on outside left forearm above wrist
1. Metallic silver Code Cylinders (Arm Tools) in left shoulder pocket. Two minimum; four maximum. Cylinder heads showing should resemble screen accurate representations
PROPOSAL: Do away with this "formal" category altogether. I would list some of these as optional, some obsolete, some now required:
NEW STANDARD REQUIRED:
9. AH-H-15 Flight Cap: Bare minimum required for headgear. This is a WWII-era cloth flight cap, khaki in color, with rubber ear cups and snaps along the cheeks (originally to attach the oxygen mask). Worn as the basis for all A-wing, B-wing, and Y-wing pilots from RotJ, under the solid helmet. Originals or accurate reproductions are accepted.
10. Solid Y-wing Flight Helmet: Accurately shaped "bucket", with movie-accurate or Star Wars style paint and markings. Also:
*Leather or leather-like padding around the inside edge
*Pink or yellow-shaded visor
11. BELT BOX: An old Motorola "Pageboy" pager, painted black and clipped to the left side of the belt. This can be scratch-made, as long as it is about 5" tall, 2.5" wide, and 1" deep, and with proper screen detail and red button on the top.
Rebel Sidearm: Never seen on screen on Y-wing pilots, but allowed. Should stick to Alliance-appropriate blaster pistols such as the DL-44 or DH-17, with matching holster.
NO LONGER ALLOWED:
Generic Clone Wars-era Jedi
RotJ A-wing pilot
TFA Resistance pilot
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