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Schph Gochi (Phyllis Schulte)
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 11:57 am    Post subject: "Costumebase" Hoth Rebel Trooper costumes...the fa Reply with quote

A couple weeks ago I ordered one of the Hoth costumes from Costumebase as this topic has come up for discussion.
Costumebase is a company from Singapore (I think it was Singapore) that makes and sells Star Wars costumes (among other things) on EBay.

As someone who has an active interest in Hoth Costumes (and spent nearly a year on research, sewing, and gathering items) as well as XO of the Trooper Detachment I thought it was important for me to see first hand what this costume was all about. Photos are worthless when it comes to things like this...I have seen parts of their Endor costume...and with work...a few pieces are acceptable...

Well....the Costumbase Hoth Rebel Trooper costume came in the mail yesterday...
I am both impressed and horrified....

My vest was not finished being "quilted"...the marks were there...but the stitching was never completed.

The hat is not a hat...but a visor....

The "vest" is not the right color for the Hangar HRS....and not the right configuration or design for the Trench HRS....

The Jacket has a hood...and the hood is supposed to be the "hat" when combined with the visor - I guess - and then there is this other piece that attaches to the hood when it is up and that is supposed to be the hat's "apron" that covers the neck. There was no such hood on the HRS....they had a hat....not a hood and visor...

Everything is made out of fabric that - for lack of a better description -
I would describe as a silky "pajama" material...or maybe like their kimonos?

It is lined with something that I don't even want to know what it is....

The jacket actually has a zipper...and has a few of the details nailed down...and some....well...not so much...if you removed the hood, made it out of better fabric...and changed the one colored ID thingy....it would actually be pretty good...

The vest has no zipper and is secured with velcro top to bottom....

Again...the fabric is hideous!
The only thing that I could recommend this costume for was to cut it apart to make a pattern....

your thoughts are encouraged...

here are some photos of the costume I received.... Shocked Shocked Shocked
















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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had been wondering about these, thanks for the review!
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah they are kind of hit or miss, they make better anime and video game costumes, but they do use cheaper fabric even on those.

their x-wing and tie flight suits are great, but they tried a boba, and while the right color, the shin pockets are on the knees and the short sleves that are over the long sleeves hang down waaaay to far.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd say it probably isn't worth the money. I'd hate to see someone get RL approval for that. Maybe I'm just being too picky since I spent a good amount of time researching the Hoth jacket/costume as well. The vest is ALL wrong...NO NO! Razz

We've got a pretty good base for patterns, I'd say it's a waste to even purchase this for a pattern. But, that's my nit-picky opinion. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So what's a viable alternative?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tigerantilles wrote:
So what's a viable alternative?


Making your own...

There is help available...

http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/icestationecho/

but this costume is not for the faint of heart...
and ain't cheap either...

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 4:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is going to sound bad, but I have to ask...

Reputation aside, does anyone know how accurate the St@rF0rtr#ss hat is? I know they have a bad rep, but does anyone know how accurate their hat is?


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 6:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't care if they were the most accurate out there, they don't deserve one red cent. They hose people, plain and simple. And if they do follow through to delivering an ordered item, the quality is usually 100% garbage. Put them out of your mind, don't even give them a moment of consideration!!!

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well....I don't have any Starfortress stuff....I ordered the Costume Base costume strictly to make an accurate assesment of that option...the Costume Base costume is just pure junk when it comes to most of the components...and as noted....the fabric is absolutely horrible...I would not make pajamas out of it.

One thing I can tell you about the Starfortress hat in your post is if the color is rendering correct...their hat is white...I have determined that the hat is not pure white but "natural" or ecru....just as the jacket is not pure white..but "natural"....

also the shape is not quite right..

but that is kind of nit-picky of me....

when you spend a year looking at and working with a costume...you tend to pick nits....
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, that's what I needed to know. I was just asking.

Oh, as for CostumeBase stuff. I have their Endor Trooper soft-helmet. Like the X-Wing vest, it needs just a little work, but looks wonderful and is very accurate. I'm currently working on the TK560 donut kit. Once I get it done, I'll post pics of it all.

I decided that the helmet itself is cheap enough that I could work on it while completing my Vader and RFT... so far, I was right.

Star Wars Endor Pilot Helmet Skull Aviator Cap Hat

The Helmet

The modifications needed would only be
1) Add a light tubing or padding in between the ribs to make them puff a little more.
2) Add a bias layer over the edge of the ribbing.
3) Add s cloth reinforcement around the edge of the ear-piece.
4) Add some black foam inside the ear piece.

Or, because of the cost, just buy one of the costumebase hats and use the bill, cheek flaps, and top ribbing to add to the AN-H-15 for the actual helmet.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, their Endor soft helmet (AN-H-15) is not accurate. The ribbing is not correct, nor is it sewn into the helmet; it was added on afterwards. Also the visor, leather pieces, and ear cups are incorrect. If you review the movies there is an argument that the visor was added to the hard helmet not the soft helmet (but some people do attach it to the soft one, only higher up than where CostumeBase has it).

Sunrider Base spent a year on this project and we have a TON of information (including patterns for the soft helmet, gaiters, and the vest) on our Project Board.

You can also find links and resources in the Endor Trooper Resources topic in this forum.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Listen to Grey Jedi, you will. Knows her stuff, she does.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He's already registered on the Sunrider Base Project Board, Donna.

I don't think he's really looked around that much yet though.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 3:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aramys Strael wrote:
Listen to Grey Jedi, you will. Knows her stuff, she does.

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No. Has very observant and talented base-members, she does. Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Schph Gochi wrote:
Tigerantilles wrote:
So what's a viable alternative?

Making your own...

There is help available...

http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/icestationecho/

but this costume is not for the faint of heart...
and ain't cheap either... Wink

For any complex costume, there are really only two options:

Make it your self from scratch
Have someone more talented then you make it from scratch

Any mass produced costume will skimp on the details and fabric to try and bring it at the low price point.
When you making the costume yourself, you can be picky on the fabric and get the right fabric (fabric may or may not cost lots of $$$) And since your not charging yourself for labor, this is most economical way to go. I know plenty of costumers that learned to sew way after I did, and they now sew circles around me.

Of course I would not start out with Hoth as your first project. Modifying stuff for RFT, doing a generic Jedi, they would be much better costume for a first time sewer to tackle. When you get your skill level up, then move on to Hoth.
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