Jaden Korr - Twi'lek version approvable?

[Jabari ()]

I realize this is a tricky question, as I originally asked 6 years ago....but standards have changed since then, so I may as well ask again...

So here's the deal. Jaden Korr is the player character from the Jedi Academy game, way back in the day. Old canon eventually made Jaden a boring generic human male, but in the game itself you could choose from a variety of species and either male or female...and the old EU is no longer canon anyway. The costume you could choose a head, torso, and legs, however, the one I want to do is clearly intended to be the same outfit, and the pieces are not otherwise customizable (only Jaden's skin color and choice of lightsabers, for Twi'lek.) I have screenshots of every angle of the costume, and can write standards.

Is it possible to get Jaden approved?

[Jabari ()]

More references:

[Jabari ()]

Jaden Korr (Red and Gold Outfit Twi'lek) Costume Standards Draft:


Cape:
- cape covers the top of the shoulders, reaching just above the point of the bust and covers the shirt's cap sleeves when arms are down
- reddish brown suede-like material
- embossed gold screen accurate design on lower edge
- gold clasp and neck detail
- seam along top of shoulder

Shirt:
- medium gray shirt with cap sleeves (shorter than the cape) and bare midriff
- embossed gold detail around the ribs with hidden closure

Belt/Tabard:
- belt/tabard extends to the upper half of the thigh in front and back, and is long enough to cover both crotch and buttocks
- base layer is the same reddish brown suede-like material as the cape
- embossed gold layer with screen-accurate detailing, with hidden closure. Gold section reaches the full length of the tabard in the front, and is short in back.
- may have one or two hidden saber hooks at the sides.

Pants:
- black or dark charcoal gray leggings/pants with open lacing detail at hip
- gold and black braid along outer leg seam
- round padded knee area with gold edging

Boots:
- black shoes with silver toe detail
- boot tops have gold details up the center shin, along the top edge, and down the center back
- black lacing crosses around the back of the leg from the front gold plate. Ends of laces are hidden.

Gloves:
- reddish brown suede-like material
- gold detailing at back of hand

Lekku:
- Black leather-like headwrap
- four gold embossed lekku jewelry pieces with accurate detailing
- each lekku has three geometric tattoos.

Makeup:
- teal blue Twi'lek has gold lipstick and gray eyeshadow

[ionicdesign (Michael)]

Game characters can be approved, without customization.

Where this version of Jaden is customized, probably not.

Certainly many Twi'lek Jedi are out there with reference and can be approved.
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[ionicdesign (Michael)]

[Jabari ()]

Well, that's great and all, but a.) I have much better references for Jaden than anything that exists for most of those comic and book ones and b.) none of those Twi'leks are the one I've been wanting to make for *16 years*.



I'd just really hate to have to give up a RL trooping opportunity to have a chance to wear a screen-accurate LucasArts designed costume...not a whole lot of other places for me to wear a Twi'lek.

[ionicdesign (Michael)]

As it is a favorite I would encourage you to make it, it could be a lot of fun, I'm sure would be great at cons. The RL charter doesn't allow such to be approved though, so if you make it do it for you first and foremost.

http://newsite.rebellegion.com/legion-charter/
Article II: Costuming Standards

[Lora Skywalker ()]

I like the costume; it looks great.

I think it also depends on how you define 'customizable'. I know game sets have been allowed before as long as you couldn't change the color or other details of the costume, but where different standard sets could be chosen. So it might warrant further discussion with the LMO and detachment since this does seem to have different set standard pieces.
The race and color would then have less importance and more variety, but the costume pieces would stay the same regardless.

Doesn't sound so different from the Relnex jedi to me.
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[JediDWH (Lisa Curtis Saunders)]

I'm actually going to agree with Lora here- the original intent of the 'no customizations' caveat was to avoid things like Star Wars Galaxies allowing pink Tusken Raiders, or things like the custom dye color packs you can use in SWTOR. If it appears as the game gives it to you, go forth, it just has to be a fully matching set.

So my SWTOR main's current outfit, which is Satele Shan but BRIGHT PURPLE wouldn't be allowed, but I'd lean on the side of allowing this, or any other gender/species/outfit combo of Jaden Korr.
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[Shay Kenobi ()]

The only suggestion I might make is to ensure you have a definitive answer from the LMO before launching this endeavour.

If you are passionate about creating it regardless of whether it could be approved, then nothing lost but if the project relies on acceptance to the Legion, I’d be getting a ruling first.

To be honest, the basic premise of not allowing customisation is that a character depicted in a game that has a number of different options is created , to some degree, by the imagination of the player. Not necessarily one that would appear anywhere else in the universe and is such, not canon.

Whilst not allowing pink Tusken raiders is an obvious example of what can’t be approved the territory between “ none and some” then becomes completely subjective. What is ok , what is too much ?

I don’t want to speak for the entire LMO team but I suspect the approach will be that this is a slippery slope and the charter is quite clear on what ducks need to be lined up for costume admission to the Legion.
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[ladysolo14 ()]

As Michael and Shay have stated, per charter we don't allow customizable game characters. To me this is anything that allows you to switch up color or costumes etc. The charter states:

[JediDWH (Lisa Curtis Saunders)]

I understand you get the final call on this one, however I'd like to point out as someone who was involved in the discussion around that charter provision that it was not intended to be used in this way. It was specifically referring to costumes you can edit- you cannot change the color, look, or combination of any of Jaden's outfits, and the outfits are identical no matter what species you put them on.

Just a matter of difference in perspective, but my opinion is unchanged.

This honestly throws all customizable video game leads into question- Revan has three different starting outfits you can choose from and like 12 different heads each between two genders. And most people don't even use the starting outfit, they go with the KOTOR-style Jedi robes you pick up later, or the Star Forge robes. If you could edit colors and choose more granularly than "torso" and "legs" then maybe, but there's a fixed number of combinations and you can't really deviate from what the game designers intended.

I mean I guess there is some art floating around somewhere from the canceled Jaden book where you can be human male dude Jaden, but that feels quite a lot more limiting than the Legion has traditionally been with video game leads.
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