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WIP - Iden Versio (Battlefront 2) Rebel X-Wing Pilot
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Update - Update - Update pompom

First I build my final leg harness. Iden has 4 buckles and I bought 150 buckles, but none of them fit in my eyes.
Because the webbing must be 5 cm wide (xwing pilot), only rectangular buckles are usually found in this size.
On the reference photos the buckles are more square for my eyes.
So again we made it out of metal ourselves.







With them I build the final harness.







I also finished the leg flares and the holder after the x-wing tutorial here.




I also made the buckle at Idens back belt.




Now I'm working on the backpack.

I was at a little con that weekend, and although the costume is not finished yet, it felt really good with the changes. (I didn't wear the correct boots in this pics, I know, but I grabbed the wrong ones in rush Laughing )





Hope you like my progresses and I appriciate your feedback!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great build. The black squares that go in front of the belt are actually the drop boxes of a Stormtrooper. They match in size and placing when Iden "borrows" a TK armor. She also uses a Stormtrooper Thermal Detonator (in black). These items (and the E-11 with the holster) are the items carried from the her Imperial Inferno Squadron outfit...
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oel Darkrider wrote:
Great build. The black squares that go in front of the belt are actually the drop boxes of a Stormtrooper. They match in size and placing when Iden "borrows" a TK armor. She also uses a Stormtrooper Thermal Detonator (in black). These items (and the E-11 with the holster) are the items carried from the her Imperial Inferno Squadron outfit...


Not sure about the thermal detonator part. Looking at this screen shot from madar it looks more flatten out like a pouch that a TD, unless you have a better screen shot you could share. Also the belt cannot be the same shadowtrooper TK belt as it does not have the silver slide connector to the right of the "pouch/TD" The continuity of the black webbing/belt is clearly broken at that point, maybe suggesting a fastening point?

I do agree that the drop boxes are from a shadow trooper and it is an E-11 holster.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dawyer47 wrote:
Oel Darkrider wrote:
Great build. The black squares that go in front of the belt are actually the drop boxes of a Stormtrooper. They match in size and placing when Iden "borrows" a TK armor. She also uses a Stormtrooper Thermal Detonator (in black). These items (and the E-11 with the holster) are the items carried from the her Imperial Inferno Squadron outfit...


Not sure about the thermal detonator part. Looking at this screen shot from madar it looks more flatten out like a pouch that a TD, unless you have a better screen shot you could share. Also the belt cannot be the same shadowtrooper TK belt as it does not have the silver slide connector to the right of the "pouch/TD" The continuity of the black webbing/belt is clearly broken at that point, maybe suggesting a fastening point?

I do agree that the drop boxes are from a shadow trooper and it is an E-11 holster.

My mistake. You are right from that view it looks like a leather pouch. The belt looks like strapping material.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I don't think, that belt is an TK - and the pouch in the bag is a leather one. I know a girl who is building Iden with a TK belt and stuff from TK, but in my opinion this is not correct.

I have some updates on the weekend.
Also the droid is now in progress. 10 days for 3D printing. Shocked
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wrote a rought draft of the CRLs for Iden...

Iden Versio
1. Orange flightsuit
Code cylinder pocket on outside of upper-middle left arm.
Rectangular pocket with a flap closure on upper-middle right arm. Flap should be rectangular shaped
Comm pad pocket on outside of left forearm above wrist
Thigh pockets with rectangular flap closures (upper set required, lower set optional)
No visible zippers or snaps.
Mandarin-style with pointed tab closure. Collar closes from left to right with the exposed tab on the right side of the throat
Cuffs should close in a similar fashion as the Mandarin-style collar
Tied at the waist by the arms.

2. Mid-calf black boots (Jack boots or engineer boots are acceptable)
Leather pull-on style preferred with low heels
Boots should be largely unadorned. No laces or ankle buckles (small buckle at top edge of boot allowable if covered by blousing)
No non-black zippers. Any zipper closure must either be hidden or on the inside of the boot (that is, front and outside zippers are not permitted)
High-Calf boots are acceptable with sufficient blousing of the flightsuit legs

3. Silver/grey leg flares in an olive drab or black leg-band holder
Maximum of 8 flares per holder
Flares and flare holder should be approximately 4" (inches) long
Metal leg flares are preferred, but other materials are permitted as long as, when finished, give the appearance of being silver metallic in appearance
Leg flares should be spaced equidistant around the leg
Leg flares can be worn on left leg and should be positioned to so the bottom edge of the leg flare is resting on the top of the boot (that is, no gap between the flare holder and the top of the boot)

4. Black web belt and grey/silver grey ejection harness
Harness (grey/silver) and belt (black) are made of strapping material that is 2” (inches) wide.
Each side straps extend from the waist (belt). Each loop of strapping are connected to the the belt (on the side) and loop (tight) around each leg, drooping no lower than the knees, with a squared buckle .
The belt is worn under the flightsuit arm knot. A squared buckle it's worn on the right side of the back. On the front there are two black drop boxes (the same that are worn in Stormtrooper's belt).

5. Grey shirt with Rebel Starbird on the right shoulder. Arms length it's 3/4.

6. Black vest for droid. The back part it's similar in dimensions to the classic vest. It has nylon webbing (2" size) that forms a box for the droid to attach. Two straps of webbing go over each shoulder (with a buckle) and under each armpit and to meet in the chest. They join each other by a third strap that goes across the chest (with a middle bigger buckle). In the left front side it's another buckle/comunicator.

7. Black tactical/fingerless-style gloves
Leather or pleather gloves preferred. Cloth or rubber gloves are not permitted

FORMAL REQUIREMENTS – YOU MUST HAVE AT LEAST ONE
1. X-Wing helmet with Star Wars-style decoration
Helmet has a Mohawk design and raised side panels as seen in the films
Trapezoidal cap on the front of the Mohawk with the appropriate design
Amber coloured visor covering the eyes (maybe be fixed or movable)
White chin cup with black elastic straps. Elastic straps should be fixed to the inside of the helmet
Black weather stripping around the “ears” and neck borders
Paint scheme, including pin stripping and decorations should resemble the second version of the helmet (for the first version Iden's not a Rebel yet). Blatant “modern-world” or other sci-fi-fantasy genre images/designs are NOT permitted.

2. E-11 holster, worn on the left side of the belt. Leather pouch worn on the back of the belt. E-11 Blaster optional.

3. ID9 Seeker Droid.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Iden Versio

1. Orange flightsuit
Code cylinder pocket on outside of upper-middle left arm.
Rectangular pocket with a flap closure on upper-middle right arm. Flap should be rectangular shaped
Comm pad pocket on outside of left forearm above wrist
Thigh pockets with rectangular flap closures (upper set required, lower set optional)
No visible zippers or snaps.
Mandarin-style with pointed tab closure. Collar closes from left to right with the exposed tab on the right side of the throat
Cuffs should close in a similar fashion as the Mandarin-style collar
Tied at the waist by the arms.

2. Mid-calf black boots (Jack boots or engineer boots are acceptable)
Leather pull-on style preferred with low heels
Boots should be largely unadorned. No laces or ankle buckles (small buckle at top edge of boot allowable if covered by blousing)
No non-black zippers. Any zipper closure must either be hidden or on the inside of the boot (that is, front and outside zippers are not permitted)
High-Calf boots are acceptable with sufficient blousing of the flightsuit legs

3. Silver/grey leg flares in an olive drab or black leg-band holder
Maximum of 8 flares per holder
Flares and flare holder should be approximately 4" (inches) long
Metal leg flares are preferred, but other materials are permitted as long as, when finished, give the appearance of being silver metallic in appearance
Leg flares should be spaced equidistant around the leg
Leg flares can be worn on left leg and should be positioned to so the bottom edge of the leg flare is resting on the top of the boot (that is, no gap between the flare holder and the top of the boot)

4. Black web belt and grey/silver grey ejection harness
Harness (grey/silver) and belt (black) are made of strapping material that is 2” (inches) wide.
Each side straps extend from the waist (belt). Each loop of strapping are connected to the the belt (on the side) and loop (tight) around each leg, drooping no lower than the knees, with a squared buckle .
The belt is worn under the flightsuit arm knot. A squared buckle it's worn on the right side of the back. On the front there are two black drop boxes (similiar to those, which that are worn in Stormtrooper's belt, but smaller and thinner).

5. Grey shirt with Rebel Starbird on the right shoulder. Arms length it's 3/4.

6. Black vest for droid. The back part it's similar in dimensions to the classic vest. It has nylon webbing (2" size) that forms a box for the droid to attach. Two straps of webbing go over each shoulder (with a buckle) and under each armpit and to meet in the chest. They join each other by a third strap that goes across the chest (with a middle bigger buckle). In the left front side it's another buckle/comunicator.

7. Black tactical/fingerless-style gloves
Leather or pleather gloves preferred. Cloth or rubber gloves are not permitted
Gloves are without any decorative stiches or holes.

FORMAL REQUIREMENTS – YOU MUST HAVE AT LEAST ONE
1. X-Wing helmet with Star Wars-style decoration
Helmet has a Mohawk design and raised side panels as seen in the films
Trapezoidal cap on the front of the Mohawk with the appropriate design
Amber coloured visor covering the eyes (maybe be fixed or movable)
White chin cup with black elastic straps. Elastic straps should be fixed to the inside of the helmet
Black weather stripping around the “ears” and neck borders
Paint scheme, including pin stripping and decorations should resemble the second version of the helmet (for the first version Iden's not a Rebel yet). Blatant “modern-world” or other sci-fi-fantasy genre images/designs are NOT permitted.

2. E-11 holster, worn on the left side of the belt. Leather pouch worn on the back of the belt. E-11 Blaster optional.

3. ID9 Seeker Droid.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This looks very good, but only the boxes are not the same as the TK boxes. They are smaller and much thinner.
I made them from metall.

Also the gloves are without any stiches or holes (some bikers gloves has holes on the back, so this would not be right in my opinion)

On the weekend I will update some details also with dimensions and pics to proof my researchs about this
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lady Mary wrote:
This looks very good, but only the boxes are not the same as the TK boxes. They are smaller and much thinner.
I made them from metall.

Also the gloves are without any stiches or holes (some bikers gloves has holes on the back, so this would not be right in my opinion)

On the weekend I will update some details also with dimensions and pics to proof my researchs about this

I think it's the game model interpretation of the drop box.


But when Iden steals a TK armor...


In real life a TK armor would'nt fit like that. So it's somekind of game aesthetic...
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, this is the problem. It is not a movie - the game designers drewed stuff different or with an own interpretation.

So I want to build my Iden, which looks like in the game - not what she could looking in real life.

The belt boxes move much more flexibly in the game than belt boxes of a TK. So now I've built something of aluminum, which fits in size, but is thinner, so they also go along with the movement of Iden (when, for example, she bends or runs).




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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I understand your point. Those boxes look great!!!!
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Update:

The printing of the droid is nearly complete. Only the feet are missing. Can't wait to paint it.

After the droid is ready, I could do the final version of my backpack. Smile





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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oel Darkrider wrote:
I wrote a rought draft of the CRLs for Iden...



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I read that you said you used cell phone cases for your drop boxes. It's funny because that was my initial thought as well- that they looked sort of cell phone size! Are you familiar with the standard drop box size? They measure 6.35cm wide, 9.7 (I rounded that number up- it's 3 and 13/16" for us Americans. A weird measurement, I know) cm tall, and 1.27 for depth. They're already super tiny and thin, so your phrasing "but smaller and thinner" might need to change.

I do agree with you, however, that they seem to change in size throughout the game. Confused
When she's pulled out of the escape pod on Jakku, standing up straight next to Del, if you compare them to the ejection harness strap, which we know is 5.08cm (2"), and the buckle that goes on the strap, they're actually pretty close to each other in size.

Reading through the "costume standards", are we sure all the chest up aspects of the X-wing flightsuit are necessary for this build when it is never seen full worn (zipped up)? I think all the lower half adornments are necessary- 3 pockets on each side, bottom two with flaps (because we can clearly see them in the post Battle of Jakku scene), and sleeve adornment, but the rest of her suit is folded down and tied, so all of that hardly seems 100% necessary.

2 other things- I think the leg flare color should be grey, or olive. Not just olive. It's because when I color corrected it in photoshop to remove all the warm lighting on Jakku, it's definitely grey, like Del's.

And the chest harness- I don't think material should be limited to just webbing... here's why: In many closeup shots, the texture is like leather (straps). Even when it's weathered in the Jakku battle and we get a closeup with her in the cockpit with helmet on, the harness does not have the texture webbing has, and looks like what leather looks like worn down. It gets light grey spots because the top dyed layer of the hide is worn down. Like what worn leather shoes look like, too. It is also thicker in closeups than webbing is.
Another thing, when she moves, it doesn't change structure much, and stays stiff and close to her chest. I've noticed that the webbing moves/ overall shape is altered, when you pose. Like when you are bent over with hands in front holding blaster, gravity and the weight of the buckle pull the harness off your chest because webbing is thin, and not stiff.

Again, however, it also changes thickness in the game, so that's why I think the harness material should be limited to just webbing (and not just because I plan on using leather)!
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