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Fastening/Securing Tunics, Tabards, and Obis

 
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 12:27 am    Post subject: Fastening/Securing Tunics, Tabards, and Obis Reply with quote

Some of the information in this thread seemed like a handy thing to have here in the tutorials section!

Below is the system that I use, but if you have other ideas, please post them and add to this (sze-wan, I'm looking at you Mr. Green ), and help our current and future jedi look their best while they troop!

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To quote my WIP thread....

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I'm also discovering that getting into this thing and getting it all on straight and keeping it that way requires either:
a. the use of the Force
b. an extra set of hands
c. a helper so you have an extra set of hands
d. a really good system of snaps

I'd prefer to have A, but I'll settle for D.

So here's the system I use, and it's worked really well for both of my costumes:

Generic Jedi 1
Generic Jedi 2

The tabards are basically snapped to my outer tunic. The whole thing goes on like a coat, snap it shut in the front, add obi and belt, and you're ready to go. Everything stays in place, doesn't shift, and I know my tabards are always centered and straight. I don't have to pester anyone to make sure I'm straight in the back and such, don't have to worry about tie closers accidently hanging out or not staying tucked away. I can move around all I want, and everything stays put and looks great the whole troop. It's been really nice!

Outer tunic snaps shut in the front with two snaps:
(and that funny little pocket on the inside of my tunic is for stashing my glasses in Razz )



Tabards snap to the front of the tunic at the waist:



Tabards snap closed at the front:



At the back, the center of the tabards are stitched together, then snap onto the tunic at the waist line at both sides. On my other jedi, where the tabards end in the back at the waist (Obi-Wan style), I have a center snap as well to make sure they stay put:


Over the shoulders I have snap tape that snaps the tabards to the outer tunic:



And the obi snaps shut like so:


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

first let me say there is nobody who does it better than you. your example is without peer.
as you have already linked to the other thread, you'll find the basic "pattern" I like to use:


as you can see, I make the full skirt at the rear, but I don't bother with a full skirt at the front.

--> for new Jedi's:
whether you choose to do the full skirt below the waist, or NOT:
you should still make a waist seam.

the left/right panels of the outer tunic at the front, should be aligned along this seam.

in the diagram above, I show two buttons in green.

you can use snaps, or buttons, or whatever you want:

the "waist seam" needs to be fixed to itself at 2 points along the costumer's waist.
this keeps the outer tunic straight and level.




the tabbards are fixed to the outer tunic at the shoulders with velcro.
beyond this, they are only just fixed to each other, with "snaps and straps", as described in the other thread.

- elastic 'waistband' at the sides of the tabbards keeps even tension left-to-right;
ensures the tabbards are always "centered" at front AND rear.

- snaps at the center will allow for the left/right sides to "pivot", but NOT slip sideways.

with the addition of "snaps and straps" along the waistline, then your tabbards become a single garment:
they wear like a "vest", and they will never move sideways with respect to each other.
they need only be attached to the outer tunic, at the shoulders, via velcro.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another great helpful thread.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your picture is broken (in the second example). Why does it need a waist seam?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is "snap tape"?

And both of your links to your full costume are broken Sad
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2016 11:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Links should be fixed in the original post now.

Snap tape is what's on my tabbards at the shoulders. It's a strip of fabric with a row of snaps on it.

Unfortunately I can't fix the second post, since I didn't post that link.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2016 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you sew the snaps to the tape and then the tape to the tabard?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2016 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sze-wan wrote:

the "waist seam" needs to be fixed to itself at 2 points along the costumer's waist.
this keeps the outer tunic straight and level.


I'm just learning to sew and am not sure what you mean by this?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2016 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

re: fastening the tabbards.

obi-wan's tabbards were stitched to the shoulders of the outer tunic.

in this scene you can see the robe is pulling the tabbards sideways:
but the underside of the tabbard is physically stitched to the tunic

http://caps.pictures/200/2-starwars2/full/starwars2-movie-screencaps.com-4988.jpg
http://caps.pictures/200/2-starwars2/full/starwars2-movie-screencaps.com-4989.jpg
http://starwarsscreencaps.com/star-wars-episode-ii-attack-of-the-clones-2002/28/
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2016 1:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know you have yours sewn to the OT. My concern with that was washing and ironing might be rather difficult if they are attached. Do you have any problems?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2016 2:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"hand wash / hang to dry" becomes your only option. Razz (and a garment steamer , instead of an iron).
but I was already doing that anyways
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2016 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cobalt-60 wrote:
"hand wash / hang to dry" becomes your only option. Razz (and a garment steamer , instead of an iron).
but I was already doing that anyways


I hand wash and hang dry mine as well. However, I had an issue with one of my Sith where I had tabards attached and ended up with color running and water marks. Not clue how, but its made me scared to sew things together.

Why a steamer instead of an iron? I've never used one, but I know what they are.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2016 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

because having the tabbards attached makes it a pain to iron, trying to get into every angle on an ironing board, but with a steamer you can just leave it on the hanger. Razz
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