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Chewie Hair Punching Video

 
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 3:08 am    Post subject: Chewie Hair Punching Video Reply with quote

In my never ending quest to research every possible piece of information on wookiee building, I stumbled across this video on youtube:

"punching in Chewie hair"

I didn't know if this fellow was a member here or not. Also I wanted to know is this what us noobs can expect, and possibly your critiques of the method in this video.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 3:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would highly recommend NOT doing it like this... the amount of hair he is using is WAY to much per punch! You will end up huge section devoid of hair... and other wait way to much. Very much like the hair on a cheap baby doll...

There are tools that are designed to punch much less hair thru FX supply stores... or even home made punch tools using sewing needles which grab 1/10 the amount of hair as he uses in the video.

I am not trying to jab at the person in the video, but I would not recommend this to a new costumer, when there are more viable methods to use. It also makes no sense to trim the hair before you punch it... you will only have to trim it again anyways.

my 2 cents.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 4:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check out this video instead: Hair Punching Tutorial

It's done by a pro fx artist. He uses Crown Punching needles rather than the standard hair punching fork that you see the other guy using.

I believe the video in question is Trap Joe. If you look at some of the other videos in his channel you can see the mask under construction.

In any event, that's still a good find, Todd.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SoloYT1300 wrote:
I would highly recommend NOT doing it like this... the amount of hair he is using is WAY to much per punch! You will end up huge section devoid of hair... and other wait way to much. Very much like the hair on a cheap baby doll...

There are tools that are designed to punch much less hair thru FX supply stores... or even home made punch tools using sewing needles which grab 1/10 the amount of hair as he uses in the video.

I am not trying to jab at the person in the video, but I would not recommend this to a new costumer, when there are more viable methods to use. It also makes no sense to trim the hair before you punch it... you will only have to trim it again anyways.

my 2 cents.


This is Trap Joes wookiee (member of the RPF).

Totally agree, you might as well latch hook up to that point than do it that way....... that method takes forever.

Crown punch needles are the way to go.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SoloYT1300 wrote:
I would highly recommend NOT doing it like this...

I am not trying to jab at the person in the video, but I would not recommend this to a new costumer, when there are more viable methods to use. It also makes no sense to trim the hair before you punch it... you will only have to trim it again anyways.

I was thinking the same thing, and being a noob, I figured I'd ask you guys first.


GotWookiee wrote:
Check out this video instead: Hair Punching Tutorial

It's done by a pro fx artist. He uses Crown Punching needles rather than the standard hair punching fork that you see the other guy using.

That's a great video, soon I get a chance I'll watch the whole thing begining to end. That's kinda like this video I've found: Hair punching CFX Codger silicone mask the easy way


This all leads me to another question (sorry if this is answered somewhere else on the forum, but I fiure it's appropriate here). Since this is for punching the hair into the face, how do you guys transition to the top of the head? My guess is you'd somehow attach a piece of your mesh suit to the top of your wookiee skull, kind of like a hairnet. I'f I'm wrong please let me know!
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a football shaped piece of mesh covering the back of the head with hair latch hooked into the mesh. The mesh is glued to the back of the plastic underskull

I have hair glued in rows on the plastic part of the underskull.

I have the hair punched into the dragonskin mask area of the face.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 3:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GotWookiee wrote:
Check out this video instead: Hair Punching Tutorial

It's done by a pro fx artist. He uses Crown Punching needles rather than the standard hair punching fork that you see the other guy using.

So I watched this entire video and it's fantastic! I learned a ton.

However (as usual) more questions came up: at one point he mentioned the #19 gauge crown needle, which he said would be used when making a "creature" using buffalo hair. Well Chewie is technically a "creature" however we use "synthetic human hair". The recommended crown needle for human hair is #36 and #38 for synthetic.

Do you think a #19 would be good for a Wookiee? Or should I be safe and just stick to a #36?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 12:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use #36 or #38 crown felting needles.

However, in the Chewie video what you see is nearly the end of the large spacing. He will go in with a smaller needle to punch the hair tighter around the eyes, mouth, etc. There is nothing wrong with his method as long as you style your hair appropriately and go to a smaller spacing/needle at 3-4cm to the edge.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 12:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The mask looks so real, it's almost painful to watch...
He's punching away with that needle at crazy speeds... ouch... ouch!!!
Shocked

I keep waiting for him to open his eyes and start singing a Judas Priest song!
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was thinking the exact same thing (exept for the Judas Priest song Wink )
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Screeeeeeeeeaming.... Screaming for Vengeance!"

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 12:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What do you guys (and gals) think of this crowning needle set?:

Makeup-FX - Hair Punching Needles


What did you use and where did you get them?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 4:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like BITY. I have ordered from them in the past. You will be pleased.

However, you can find felting needles cheaper elsewhere. I get my 38g needles here:

http://www.weirdollsandcrafts.com/needle-felting-roving/felting-needle-supply.html

The difference is variety and comfort. BITY has comfy handles, and if that is worth $20 (and to some people I know it is) then go with BITY.
Otherwise, go with weir.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 5:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the confirmation. I know some places sell handles. Some you have to cut the "L" part of the top and put it in the handle, etc. Even though I wouldn't mind a variety of options, I just want to start getting the "supply and tool hunting" over with. It seems like I'm making 2 to 3 web orders a week just to get all the materials and tools for my wookiee build LOL!!

Thanks again for the info, I think I'll just go for the BITY this time around.
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