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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 12:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope, there's no rule against wearing glasses in the application photos...nor will there ever be (nor should there ever be, in my opinion).

I've enjoyed all of the comments and creativity in this thread!

Not wearing glasses in application photos is just a personal prefernce of mine that seems to be shared by quite a few other LCJs and members, alike.

As for sunglasses? Especially aviator or ray ban type sunglasses are way cool for Jedi and Rebel Pilots! I wear these kinds when trooping Jedi outside.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As a judge...
I also would prefer not to see glasses...

and...
as noted...
there are glasses...

and

there are
GLASSES


Some folks have glasses that are so non-descript...you don't even "see" them...

and there are other glasses that scream at you...
"look at me"...

If an applicant has glasses that scream at you...I generally will ask for a profile photo without glasses...

Also, if there are new photos needed and the person was wearing glasses in their original application...I will suggest that when they take the new photos that the have their glasses off..
it goes without saying that if someone NEEDS glasses to function at events...they should wear their glasses...

I also personally allow no sunglasses for profile photos...
and ask the applicant to remove..


As a real person..
I am pretty much blind when it comes to seeing anything that is within 2 feet of my face...
but..
you will never see me with my glasses on at an event...
I do my best to sign "autographs" when asked...
though...
my signature is probably not too readable...lol...


Which brings to mind the most horrid "I can't see a darn thing" experience I had at a costume event...

I was not in Jedi...but in my Stormtrooper armor...which really leaves me blind and deaf...
and ...
well..
here I was trying to sign autographs....
I could barely find the paper...
I had it so close to my bucket just to make sure that I was actually signing paper and not my hand...

lol...


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jedi Seever wrote:
I was and still am thinking of making a harness that the Miraluka have, to hide my glasses. I just need to find a good material to do that and be able to see through. I found some, but trying to sew it to a headband did not work too well.

Just my two cents.


I have a Miraluka Jedi and have attempted a few veils. The one in my approval photos was made using a very tightly-woven black mesh fabric. (Tight enough so that you can't see the holes as with more traditional mesh).

http://www.rebellegion.com/forum/costume.php?mode=view&c=6756&bu=%2Fmember_search.php%3Fq%3Dboudicca%26submit%3DSearch%26s%3Dm%26b%3D0%26i%3D0&bl=Search+result

I bought it at Joann's but of course now I can't find it on their site. But I know it's available in some stores and on other sites. Because I applied under the old generic Jedi standard (no visible black), I had to put a layer of brown gauze over it to hide the black. Visibility was decent and my eyes were hidden.

I was happy with the veil's appearance, but when trooping, it kept sliding down due to the silky cord I used to hang the veil from. So I need to make a new one before I troop in it again, either using leather cord, or with the fabric covering the whole head (like Visas Marr) instead of just hanging from the cord in the front. I also experimented with 2-3 more "manly" versions for my husband's ANH Y-Wing pilot, in different styles.

Here are some things I learned that you might find helpful:

- Don't go with the style with fabric itself pulled & tied around your head if your goal is to hide glasses. The outline of the glasses will be visible. I tried something similar to this:





for my husband, in black mesh with green gauze over it, and it didn't allow for glasses underneath. It also kept slipping down during the first troop. Also, whenever you pull the stuff tight around your eyes, your visibility is less than when you let the fabric hang down in front of you.

- A better method in terms of concealing glasses might be to do something like the below. I made this for my husband, but it didn't fit under the pilot bucket. This approach may conceal your glasses - the braided leather cord is thicker than the silk cord I was using for mine. So depending on the size of your glasses and how far forward they sit, if you went this route, you might want to position the fabric to the front of the cord so that it hangs a little further away from your face.



I am beginning to think that the Visas Marr style in which the fabric covers the whole head may be the most stable for trooping, because while leather should hold better than fabric or silk cord when tied around the head, given the temps here in SoCal, the leather cord may slip due to sweat also.

Anyway, not sure if this helps, but just some musings from someone who's still trying to perfect the process...


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL... good thread! Man, I'm so blind (can't see far) without my glasses... In convention pics you can see my glasses in my hand behind my back... I just quickly take them off for photos. I tried contacts but they just make me blind the other way... can't see close up with them. They didn't work out. At dragon con I attempted to go without for Jedi and for another costume. That worked out until I lost sight of the people I was with... ::sigh::

Nice ideas here to cover up the glasses... Maybe I'll spring for surgery when I win the lottery hehe Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jay-gon Jinn wrote:
Some of us that have to wear glasses in real life may have allergies that do not allow us to wear contacts...

In my case, it's eye damage (neovascularization) from past years of wearing contacts, rather then an allergy... but the logic still holds true: nobody should be "suggested" into potentially damaging their eyes, for the sake of costuming.

Typically, I don't wear my glasses during events, not because I'm paranoid that people will think it's not "timey-wimey, Starey-Warsey" enough... but simply because I don't want to risk damaging my frames fitting them inside my Rebel Pilot helmet. I did wear them during CVI more then I expected to (while in costume) to be able to enjoy all the things there to be seen.

Plus, at most venues I can get away with trooping with everyone being "a big light blur." Not everyone is as fortunate as I am in this regard.

I do commend people who chose to wear their glasses, while in costume and even in their database picture for one simple reason: it shows they have a healthy grasp on reality when it comes to public perception about us. It shows they get it that people don't think we're space-men (and women) from another world; but rather people who get dressed up as characters from Star Wars to be active in their community.

And to suggest the jedi costumers who need to wear glasses, should have to buy/wear Star Wars-themed eyewear (blindfolds, welders goggles, or wacky "sci-fi" looking frames) to cover up the fact that they wear glasses is ridiculous; bordering on insulting.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Krash wrote:
Jay-gon Jinn wrote:
Some of us that have to wear glasses in real life may have allergies that do not allow us to wear contacts...


And to suggest the jedi costumers who need to wear glasses, should have to buy/wear Star Wars-themed eyewear (blindfolds, welders goggles, or wacky "sci-fi" looking frames) to cover up the fact that they wear glasses is ridiculous; bordering on insulting.


Just want to make clear - I didn't intend to suggest that anyone should have to wear a Miraluka veil (or Star Warsy glasses or anything else) rather than wear their glasses openly! It's just that I've gotten a bit nerdy about making these veils and was excited to share some info with someone who seemed interested in making one...

But I agree, if you need to wear glasses, and don't want to get new frames/cover them/etc., that's perfectly fine, of course! Wear them and wear them with pride! The costumer's health comes first, and no one should have to wear contacts if they don't want to, and no one should have to walk around blind on a troop, either.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Boudicca wrote:
Jedi Seever wrote:
I was and still am thinking of making a harness that the Miraluka have, to hide my glasses. I just need to find a good material to do that and be able to see through. I found some, but trying to sew it to a headband did not work too well.

Just my two cents.


I have a Miraluka Jedi and have attempted a few veils. The one in my approval photos was made using a very tightly-woven black mesh fabric. (Tight enough so that you can't see the holes as with more traditional mesh).

http://www.rebellegion.com/forum/costume.php?mode=view&c=6756&bu=%2Fmember_search.php%3Fq%3Dboudicca%26submit%3DSearch%26s%3Dm%26b%3D0%26i%3D0&bl=Search+result

I bought it at Joann's but of course now I can't find it on their site. But I know it's available in some stores and on other sites. Because I applied under the old generic Jedi standard (no visible black), I had to put a layer of brown gauze over it to hide the black. Visibility was decent and my eyes were hidden.

I was happy with the veil's appearance, but when trooping, it kept sliding down due to the silky cord I used to hang the veil from. So I need to make a new one before I troop in it again, either using leather cord, or with the fabric covering the whole head (like Visas Marr) instead of just hanging from the cord in the front. I also experimented with 2-3 more "manly" versions for my husband's ANH Y-Wing pilot, in different styles.

Here are some things I learned that you might find helpful:

- Don't go with the style with fabric itself pulled & tied around your head if your goal is to hide glasses. The outline of the glasses will be visible. I tried something similar to this:




for my husband, in black mesh with green gauze over it, and it didn't allow for glasses underneath. It also kept slipping down during the first troop. Also, whenever you pull the stuff tight around your eyes, your visibility is less than when you let the fabric hang down in front of you.

- A better method in terms of concealing glasses might be to do something like the below. I made this for my husband, but it didn't fit under the pilot bucket. This approach may conceal your glasses - the braided leather cord is thicker than the silk cord I was using for mine. So depending on the size of your glasses and how far forward they sit, if you went this route, you might want to position the fabric to the front of the cord so that it hangs a little further away from your face.



I am beginning to think that the Visas Marr style in which the fabric covers the whole head may be the most stable for trooping, because while leather should hold better than fabric or silk cord when tied around the head, given the temps here in SoCal, the leather cord may slip due to sweat also.

Anyway, not sure if this helps, but just some musings from someone who's still trying to perfect the process...


I like that and will have to try to do that. I have to ask, if you could make one and how much? I will work on doing one first, but would like to keep options open.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The original intent of the post was a simple request to remove your glasses for the initial costume submission and Legion profile picture. Beyond anything else, glasses can cause a glare in the photo, distracting from the detail needed to judge a costume properly. Some people who wear glasses indicated that they had ways to work around wearing them when they troop and were discussing what they use or would like to use.

In no way, shape or form am I reading here that it's suggested that those who need glasses should find an alternative for actual troops. It's like telling a person who's wheelchair bound to suck it up and try to walk or modify their wheelchair to look like something from the SW universe. That levels into discriminatory, inflammatory and yes, out right insulting and debasing of potential and current members. That is not within the scope of the Legion charter nor is it within the scope of what's been proposed in this thread.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

These are what I'd like to wear with my Jedi costume - already have a pair that I painted brass and then aged..



I think these could be considered Star Warsy...
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They look like a bra to me...lol. Wink

Nobody ever said someone had to go without glasses or change them to something else; we are simply sharing ideas for those who are interested in doing something else. Very Happy Personally I think a pair of steampunky glasses would be cool, but I could also go for doing a miraluka.
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http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y206/magnius/n662495692_4369439_1237-1.jpg



<a href="http://s6.photobucket.com/albums/y206/magnius/?action=view&amp;current=n662495692_4369439_1237-1.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y206/magnius/n662495692_4369439_1237-1.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>


http://s6.photobucket.com/albums/y206/magnius/?action=view&current=n662495692_4369439_1237-1.jpg

I used these WWII era tank goggles to cover over my regular glasses
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And....
talk about crazy expensive:

http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2012/10/07/star-wars-eyewear/


$499.99?
who would pay that kind of money for those?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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$499.99?
who would pay that kind of money for those?


I'd make a down payment on some Lasik for that much.
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Schph Gochi wrote:
And....
talk about crazy expensive:

http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2012/10/07/star-wars-eyewear/


$499.99?
who would pay that kind of money for those?



And I thought regular glasses were expensive... and those don't even LOOk Star Warsy!
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Schph Gochi wrote:
$499.99?
who would pay that kind of money for those?


Someone with too much money?
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