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trickysix989 (Kym)
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 8:42 pm    Post subject: Makin Wookie Reply with quote

Hey guys

I'm new to this group so please be gentle. Ive been starting to gather all my materials together to make a chewy costume. I just have a few quick questions regarding the hair and under skull. The Kanekalon comes in 48" bunches and was wondering if I should cut in 1/2 to 12" (48" seems way too long).
Second question. I'm kinda puzzled as to what material to use for the under skull. I was originally thinking cast resin or fiberglass but then I thought about flex foam. Lemmie me know what you think.
And lastly, Wanted to know what material would work best for a mold of face/under skull? Ive heard jesmonite tossed around. I normally make silicone molds but am willing to work with a better (and cheaper) option.
Any info would be stellar guys, much appreciated.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kym,
Cut the hair in half once so the strands are 24". That way when you latch hook they will be 12" long. You can trim up where needed after the hooking is done, but for now, too long is better than too short.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Kym,

Your best resources here are Lumpy (Chris Blackstock), GotWookiee (Matt Pfingsten) as he is the Wookiee LCJ, Duck, and SoloYT1300 (Bob Kohn).
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used jesmonite for the mould of the face (platsil gel 10 for the actual casting), it's much stronger than plaster and will last longer!

Think you probably would be better off with a solid underskull (if you are looking to make a moving jaw that is). Had considered using expanding foam myself but don't think it would hold it's shape that well over time.
Mine is fibreglass but I'm looking into making a vacuformed ABS version to keep the weight down a bit.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, another Wookiee? Cool. Cool

They sure have been coming out of the wroshyr trees in the last year.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Didn't you get the memo Lori???

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dougie Fett wrote:
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Think you probably would be better off with a solid underskull (if you are looking to make a moving jaw that is). Had considered using expanding foam myself but don't think it would hold it's shape that well over time.
Mine is fibreglass but I'm looking into making a vacuformed ABS version to keep the weight down a bit.


Id love to do a vacuformed underskull, only problem is I cant find the ABS. Plus I dont have a vacuum chamber or know anyone around me who does. Its on my list of things to buy though. What about just using a resin cast for underskull? I've used resin with other masks and such. Might be light enough yet still keeping a solid shape?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

trickysix989 wrote:
Dougie Fett wrote:
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Think you probably would be better off with a solid underskull (if you are looking to make a moving jaw that is). Had considered using expanding foam myself but don't think it would hold it's shape that well over time.
Mine is fibreglass but I'm looking into making a vacuformed ABS version to keep the weight down a bit.


Id love to do a vacuformed underskull, only problem is I cant find the ABS. Plus I dont have a vacuum chamber or know anyone around me who does. Its on my list of things to buy though. What about just using a resin cast for underskull? I've used resin with other masks and such. Might be light enough yet still keeping a solid shape?


I'm sure it would be worth a try. At least when you have your mould done, u can expreiment with different materials.

Yeah, vacuforming is proving to be a slight problem for me too! I was going to try make my own simple version but realistically I'd need an industrial strength Vac!
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 3:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried the vacuum formed route on my first mask. It has too much flexibility and will probably end up breaking as mine did.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GotWookiee wrote:
I tried the vacuum formed route on my first mask. It has too much flexibility and will probably end up breaking as mine did.


Was it ABS? Thought it should be more durable than that!!
Although anything with flex is bound to create problems with a moving jaw!
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 2:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bear in mind that this happened after approx. 3 years of heavy trooping.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went with Shell shock with steel plating embeded in the jaw, and hinge areas. There is something to be said about using quality materials and not skipping steps to the mask making proccess. I have watched alot of mask makers who skip steps, and they usually end up with weaker masks that never quite fit right.

Take your time and read up on mask making techniques and try not to skip any of the steps and you will end up with a much better product that lasts longer in the end.

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