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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 2:03 pm    Post subject: Bandolier box dimensions Reply with quote

Folks,

Does anyone have dimensions for the ROTS boxes? The larger one appears to be narrower than the Original trilogy ones!

Or even how wide the leather belt is, should be able to work out dimensions from that?




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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From the Costuming Resources

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1.There are 10 large blocks and 9 small blocks.
2.According to Dan Hyatt, the dimensions of the blocks are:
◦Large block, main piece: 3 inches X 3.75 inches X 1 inches
◦Large block, base piece: .125 inches X 3.252 inches X 4.002 inches
◦Small block dimensions: 3.75 inches X 1.38 inches X 1.125 inches
◦Space between each block (regardless of block size): 1.38 inches
3.According to measurements made by Jeff Allen using a laser pointer caliper to measure the Magic of Myth exhibit, these are the dimensions of various items on the bandolier:
◦The small coin-shaped item is 1.1811 inches (3 centimeters) in diameter.
◦Large block: 1.9685 inches (5 centimeters) by 3.1496 inches (8 centimeters).
◦Small block: 1.1811 inches (3 centimeters) by 3.3465 inches (8.5 centimeters).
4.The blocks are allegedly old aluminum project/science experiment cases from Radio Shack. These items are discontinued.
5.The rings used to attach the bandolier to the pouch are approx. 1 inch in diameter. (source unknown)
6.Chewie wears the bandolier on his left shoulder with the pouch resting on his right hip.
7.There is a hidden strap that attaches to the bandolier at the shoulder and goes around Peter Mayhew's neck, to keep the bandolier in place.
8.The Revenge of the Sith pouch appears to be made of cloth and not leather.
9.The Revenge of the Sith bandolier doesn't have the leather concho/checker piece/coin like the Classic Trilogy bandolier.
10.The Revenge of the Sith bandolier has some border lines in the both the main strap and the center strap. There are also some small leather loops on each side of the block that are probably for holding the center strap to the main strap.
11.The Episode 3 bandolier has blocks without any lip, and they look like they were assembled kind of like a 3D puzzle.
12.The bandolier used in A New Hope and Empire Strikes Back has simple tapered ends at each end of the strap. The Return of the Jedi bandolier has a curved, more ornate taper.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CBlack. Those are OT boxes. The PT boxes like Dougie Fett is doing is totally different.

Dougie, from my calculations, the strap is 4 inches wide. I've been tracking my Tarrful research at http://wookieegunner.livejournal.com/

And came up with the following numbers:

Large Box:
Face-84mmx47mm
Side Bar-84mmx7.5mm
Cutout-12mmx10mm
Side Cutout-12mmx12mm (this is an L shape with the corner in the relavant top corner and the short pieces half the length of the long ones)
Lip width-3mm
Lip thickness-2mm
Depth-13mm

Small Box:
Face-94mmx31mm
Side Bar-94mmx5mm
Top Cutout-11mmx5mm
Side Cutout-3mmx3mm
Depth-15mm

I designed them in Via Cad and had them rapid prototyped. The prototypes are currently sitting in Rebound 25. Once I get the mold done and the first set pulled I'll post pictures.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Then I guess we should maybe add those to the resources page??
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers lads,

I was hoping you'd say the belt was 4 inches, I based most of my calculations on that.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cblack wrote:
Then I guess we should maybe add those to the resources page??


Yeah, I'm planning on working up a Tarrful Resource page, but I'm waiting till I have made mine, partially to include pitfalls, but mostly because I have a hard deadline to be done by and I am trying to focus my effort on that.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WookieeGunner wrote:
CBlack. Those are OT boxes. The PT boxes like Dougie Fett is doing is totally different.

Dougie, from my calculations, the strap is 4 inches wide. I've been tracking my Tarrful research at http://wookieegunner.livejournal.com/

And came up with the following numbers:

Large Box:
Face-84mmx47mm
Side Bar-84mmx7.5mm
Cutout-12mmx10mm
Side Cutout-12mmx12mm (this is an L shape with the corner in the relavant top corner and the short pieces half the length of the long ones)
Lip width-3mm
Lip thickness-2mm
Depth-13mm

Small Box:
Face-94mmx31mm
Side Bar-94mmx5mm
Top Cutout-11mmx5mm
Side Cutout-3mmx3mm
Depth-15mm

I designed them in Via Cad and had them rapid prototyped. The prototypes are currently sitting in Rebound 25. Once I get the mold done and the first set pulled I'll post pictures.


Just looking at this again, if the belt is 4 inches then the boxes must be the same, well near enough.
You're saying that the face of the large box is 84mm, that's 3 3/8" , I think it should be closer to 4" or 100mm.

Here's the calculations that I made.






The small box is probably slightly longer maybe 105mm i think!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let me go back to my initial notes. At one time I had calculated using 3.75" bandolier width, then when back and did it for 4". I thought I updated my livejournal, but I might have the wrong one up there, unfortunately my notes are at home.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, here are my 4" notes:

Large Box:
Face-98mmx52mm
Top Edge-98mmx6.5mm
Cutout-12.5mmx10mmx.5mm
L Shape-12mmx12mmx2mm
Gap between edge and L-2mm
Front Edge Cutout-10mmx3mmx.5mm
Lip width-2mm
Lip Depth-3mm
Depth-17mm

Small Box:
Face-108mmx34.75mm
Top Edge-108mmx5mm
Top Cutout-10.5mmx6mm
Side Cutout-3mmx3mm
Gap between edge and cutout-2mm
Front Edge Cutout-6mmx3mmx.5mm
Depth-17mm

Spacing between Boxes-60.5mm

That about what you are getting.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 6:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, I revisited this in more detail this weekend. My current belief is that Chewie's strap is 3.75 inches and Tarrful's is 4 inches. Now I might be off on this, how did you calculate the width of the strap?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WookieeGunner wrote:
Ok, I revisited this in more detail this weekend. My current belief is that Chewie's strap is 3.75 inches and Tarrful's is 4 inches. Now I might be off on this, how did you calculate the width of the strap?


I'm still trying to thrash out the dimensions, have made a large box based on the measurements so far but not entirely convinced.

I have a few pics of Chewie and Tarfful together and the boxes do look the same size.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, the boxes are the same, but Tarfful's straps are longer. If you look closely, he ROTS straps have a set of lines the run down them near the edge. The large box completely covers Chewie's strap but only goes from one line to the other on Tarrfuls. I based my box measurements mostly on Chewie's bandolier.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, scrapped the previous work and went back and regenerated the calculations. I calculated Tarfful's bandolier at 4.5 inches, so Chewie's strap is probably 4 inches.

Sometimes I hate playing picture math.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Holy necro-post, Batman!

So, what was ultimately determined about the width of Tarfful's bandolier?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 3:31 pm    Post subject: thank you all Reply with quote

my name is tim bremer i am a member of the 501st and decided to work on a rots costume some years ago and have been working on my rots bandolier before i move on to finish the head for submission. i made my prototype boxes from the 4inch size that i saw on the web site mentioned here, can anyone tell me if the RL has adopted these sizes as the standard for the costume?? i would appreciate any help you can give. cheers
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