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ShVagYeR (Michael Szymanski)
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:10 pm    Post subject: A detail that just got canonized... Reply with quote

Recently I've found this image: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/File:ULAV-RECG.jpg and it appears that wearing rank insignia on the RFT vest is 100% canon now. Smile

/me goes to make his Lieutenant badge
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is no reference for this image. And true canon would be what is seen in the movie, not necessarily a comic or graphic novel.

Right now, rank badges are allowed as an option.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I said canon, not G-canon. Smile I am fully aware of the different levels of canon and I didn't mean to imply that it should be a formal requirement. I'm just happy that finally there's a licensed source (Rebellion Era Campaign Guide) which shows that RFTs wore rank badges. That's all. Smile

Plus, I wanted to share this cool image with everyone. Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm pretty sure that it was a mistake on the artist's part. That officer should be wearing the browns, not the blues, I should think.

But it is cool, nonetheless!

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice find Michael!

I guess I may just wear mine too now to troop with! Cool
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Um.....never heard of "different levels of canon" before. My interpretation is "either it is or it isn't based on the original material".

For Holmesians/Sherlockians "canon" is what is in the stories by Arthur Conan Doyle, not the other things written by Micheal Crichton (Seven Percent Solution) or other modern authors.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Careful, Donna, you could open up a big can of worms, there.

There have been many a debate on the multiple levels of "canon". So much, that it can make your head spin.

I know there are many levels of canon.... I just tend to tune it all out. Mr. Green

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 2:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Canon is out....it is all about formal or informal....I say....INFORMAL Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aramys Strael wrote:
Careful, Donna, you could open up a big can of worms, there.

There have been many a debate on the multiple levels of "canon". So much, that it can make your head spin.

I know there are many levels of canon.... I just tend to tune it all out. Mr. Green

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Sort of like the white versus gray and gray versus tan debates? Rolling Eyes

I agree with Becca, it's either FORMAL (all standards met) or INFORMAL. Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grey Jedi wrote:
Um.....never heard of "different levels of canon" before. My interpretation is "either it is or it isn't based on the original material".


LFL has a tiered canon system.

This is a good breakdown of the Holocron system:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars_canon#The_Holocron

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The Holocron is divided into 5 levels (in order of precedence): G-canon, T-canon, C-canon, S-canon, and N-canon.

G-canon is absolute canon; the movies (their most recent release), the scripts, the novelizations of the movies, the radio plays, and any statements by George Lucas himself. G-canon overrides the lower levels of canon when there is a contradiction. Within G-canon, many fans follow an unofficial progression of canonicity where the movies are the highest canon, followed by the scripts, the novelizations, and then the radio plays.

T-canon[1] refers to the canon level comprising only the two television shows: Star Wars: The Clone Wars and the Star Wars live-action TV series. Its precedence over C-Level canon was confirmed by Chee.[2]

C-canon is primarily composed of elements from the Expanded Universe including books, comics, and games bearing the label of Star Wars. Games and RPG sourcebooks are a special case; the stories and general background information are themselves fully C-canon, but the other elements such as character/item statistics and gameplay are, with few exceptions, N-canon.

S-canon is secondary canon; the story itself is considered non-continuity, but the non-contradicting elements are still a canon part of the Star Wars universe. This includes things like the online roleplaying game Star Wars: Galaxies and certain elements of a few N-canon stories.

N-canon is non-canon. "What-if" stories (such as stories published under the Star Wars: Infinities label), crossover appearances (such as the Star Wars character appearances in Soulcalibur IV), game statistics, and anything else directly contradicted by higher canon ends up here. N-canon is the only level that is not considered official canon by Lucasfilm. A significant amount of material that was previously C-canon was rendered N-canon by the release of Episodes I-III.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I have ordered a rank badge for my RFT just because of the back-story. Now with the pic, I can actually wear it and not feel out of place...

I knew there was a reason for such a large "blank area" on the left chest.

As for canon, I am wondering where the new SWTOR will fall since it has so many elements made by LFL (unlike the Sony-made SWG).

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmmmmm....rank badge....
lol...
don't even have one of those....
nor even the one of the mettalic RL name badges that look similar...
Embarassed

I am "bling-less"....

and the truth of the matter is...
probably 90% of all of the events I do are not "canon" events...
so....for the most part...one can have a lot of fun with items that may or may not be canon....
You just leave the piece off if doing a canon event...or submitting your costume for approval....

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whoever came up with the "tiered" system has waaaay too much time on their hands, IMO. Rolling Eyes

And for RL purposes, the rank badges have always been okay for "casual" wear. Sunrider's RFTs have them and wear them a lot.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grey Jedi wrote:
Whoever came up with the "tiered" system has waaaay too much time on their hands, IMO. Rolling Eyes
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and wherever they got that time....
I need to go there
and get some of that "time stuff" myself...

Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Schph Gochi wrote:
Grey Jedi wrote:
Whoever came up with the "tiered" system has waaaay too much time on their hands, IMO. Rolling Eyes
.

and wherever they got that time....
I need to go there
and get some of that "time stuff" myself...

Very Happy


When you do, can you please pick up some extra for me? Or at least PM me with a location/map so I can plan my own trip.

I agree on the too much time sentiments. The multiple SW canon level thing has always reminded me somehow of the "authenticity police" subset of historical reenactors/costumers.

As for the RPG sourcebook,illustration, I think it may be artistic license. I have the book (& most of the others for that game), as roleplaying games are one of the family hobbies & this one is, understandably a favorite. The picture was used to illustrate a non-rules section on gamers playing members of a Rebel cell, & also to show what a vehicle (from the X-wing novels, iirc), which had been given game stats, looked like.

However, don't dismiss these RPG books as a potential source. Many of the illustrations are movie stills, and some descriptions of the clothing/tattoos/etc. , if not artwork, of EU characters might provide a reference for getting costume approval--but that would be up to the Costume Judges.

In this case, I'd say have fun wearing the rank insignia to events that don't require a canon/formal costume.
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