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Woofer (John H. VanOphem)
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 1:22 am    Post subject: ATTN: Canadian Pilots Reply with quote

I got a day off work and started doodling with squadron logo ideas. We are getting close enough to be able to form our own squadron, so I figure now is a good time to get the logo settled.

Actually I've been playing with a lot of different ideas, but it fell into place for me today and I finally found a design that I liked.



It is based on the RCAF roundel, but with an added Rebel twist. I kinda like the Maple Leaf merged with the Rebel "bird", it gives the appearance of claws!

The design is a classic, it dates back to World War I with the Royal Air Force, and was in use by the Canadians (with the maple leaf centre) since 1924.

Another thing going for it, like our Base logo, is it is text-free, so we don't need to worry about language. I am also a fan of clean and simple designs, that really stand out.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 4:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well... you saw claws... I saw demon... not something I'd want to wear... good idea though... it'd be better maybe if a name wear applied first for the Canadian pilots... then perhaps the "patch" would come from that...
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 6:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree, I saw the same thing initially...a demon.

Have you thought of looking at our own Canadian logos? For instance the logo for 8 Wing Trenton is:

http://www.airforce.forces.gc.ca/8wing/

I know these are more like crests, but we also have our share of animal themed detachments and etc.

Heres some examples:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No._407_Squadron_RCAF

http://rcaf.com/kitshop/cafrcafsquadronpatchcollection-p-1055.html

Some Wiki information for CFB Trentons Squadrons:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CFB_Trenton

I agree with Grey Starr as well...perhaps the logo can be decided after the name is. Feel free to start a thread guys and start throwing around some possibilities!
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did research various squadron logos, hence my hitting on the old RCAF roundel.

As for the name, I do believe one was submitted ages ago to the RL Starfleet Command for Canada, Cairoka Squadron. At the very least the name should have been "held" giving us first dibs on it.

Of course that was awhile ago and the only pilots up here then was me and Marie Claude!

I still don't see the demon analogy really, but obviously my idea isn't going to fly (no pun intended) so I'll withdraw it. Sorry.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love the Roundel idea. What about using this idea but instead of trying to work in the Maple Leaf, just have the Rebel bird?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well just a red Rebel bird could be used by the British, the Australians and the New Zealand groups as well, as they all use the roundel motif for their air force.

OK, so how about this then:



Much closer to the original RCAF design, plus our existing logo, with the Rebel part done in a lighter shade to keep the overall appearance closer to the original as well.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Woofer wrote:
As for the name, I do believe one was submitted ages ago to the RL Starfleet Command for Canada, Cairoka Squadron. At the very least the name should have been "held" giving us first dibs on it.

Of course that was awhile ago and the only pilots up here then was me and Marie Claude!\


I have actually not seen any reference to that, especially in tha past couple years.

Since there are more pilots now I do suggest starting a tthread, suggesting that Cairoka name and where its from etc and get the ball rolling for the name first, then perhaps rather than a gerneric logo we can have something unique, especially if any other detachments roll in, like Jedi, Royalty etc.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 2:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Woofer wrote:
OK, so how about this then:



Much prettier... Roundels are not for patches traditionaly... they are on the planes... Smile but I still like this one! How about Red bird and Blue leaf?

Down below there is a thread already about starting a squadron... in it I suggested "Roaring Wampa Squadron!"... I like the "Northern" feel of having Wampa in the name... Laughing

I know! "North of Echo Squadron"... haha...
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do like that design better! Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 3:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WSMI 2/2008: Note from the Hawkbat SCO

Hawkbats, I just wanted to take this time and thank each and every one of you for doing your part in making the event great. I have had nothing but compliments on the quality of your costumes and the level of professionalism that you all displayed during the event. You guys made me proud out there! I am getting information requests from people planning a future pilot costume as we speak! Thumbs up

Hopefully this will be the first of many events where a few bases can get together and have a good showing of the orange! Thanks to John from Canada (He drove and was awesome!), and Erik and Justin from Alderaan Base for helping out! Extra big thanks to Andrea & Mary Alice for getting the whole thing set up and keeping us all on target!

Rebel Pilots... You guys rock! The first transport is away!


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thought I'd chime in on a couple things ...

1) As far as I know, the RLSC has no record of a name on file for an existing or potential Canadian Squadron. (Hopefully Ed will chime in if his database says differently.) Sorry, you'll need to start at the beginning again I'm afraid. Perhaps not a bad thing with so many new pilots involved.

2) IMO ... Unit Designation first, Unit Crest thereafter. After all, you don't need a Crest to start a Base Squadron, but you do need the name.

3) And you need more pilots! Always, more pilots! Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HazardThree wrote:
the RLSC has no record of a name on file for an existing or potential Canadian Squadron.


Nope, I have nothing. I wasn't given any files or anything when I was dropped into command, so what's in the forums is all we have to go by.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 2:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would like to suggest replace the Maple Leaf with the Rebel Claw. That way it still looks CAF only the center is changed to represent a SW theme.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well personally I think, as said, a name should be chosen, and then we base an image off that, something exciting and different Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Woofer wrote:
OK, so how about this then:


Looks good. I like! Cool

The only possible critique I might have of it is to make the blue band a little thinner so the logo/leaf pops out more and there is a little more white space.
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