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Master Saval ()
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 Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 7:07 am Post subject: Patch question
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Would placing your base patch on the shoulder area of the flightsuit change the status from formal to informal?
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dirk steele (karl)
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| Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 10:48 am Post subject:
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you could do some light hand sewing on patches for informal events then just seam rip them off for formal events. i know a few people here do just that .
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| Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 11:54 am Post subject:
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| No one's ever told me that my Echo Bae, Hawkbat and Mos Eisley Port Authority patches caused it to become informal. |
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| Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 1:46 pm Post subject:
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Well, the way it was explained to me was: If the event calls for "Movie Canon", since there were no patches in the films, the patches would be "informal".
That being the case, the light stitching option is a good one, I also remember some people using hot glue. The patch comes off and leaves no mark, but still sticks really well, and does not fall off.
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| Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 5:23 pm Post subject:
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If I may suggest taking a small que from the current Army uniforms...
Put some soft-velcro on the shoulder of your flight suit. Most soft-velcro can be colored and blends in with most fabric. Then, attack some of the hook velcro on the back of the patch. Boom, one removable patch. Also, you can fix up a board with velcro strips to display your patches!
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grey_starr (Daniel)
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| Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 11:21 pm Post subject:
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pins would seem the easy answer...probably 4, put on from the inside...
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| Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 3:00 am Post subject: Re: Patch question
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Perhaps I should clarify my question: this would be regarding membership rather than events.
As for the responses with hot glue, velcro, and pins thank you I appreciate it and will have to try the Hot glue method.
Greg
| Master Saval wrote: | Would placing your base patch on the shoulder area of the flightsuit change the status from formal to informal?
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| Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 4:12 am Post subject:
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Then the question was answered... placing your base patch on the shoulder area of the flightsuit DOES change the status from formal to informal...
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| Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 4:33 am Post subject:
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| grey_starr wrote: | | Then the question was answered... placing your base patch on the shoulder area of the flightsuit DOES change the status from formal to informal... |
Which to be honest with ya'll...why are we even bothering to make Squadron patches, if we're not allowed to use them?
Couple years ago, I could see how RL didn't want their pilots with all different kinds of generic "Rogue Squadron" or rebel bird patches...but as far as I am aware, nearly every squadron has patches for either their local Base or Squadron (or both).
Hazard Three gets to wear his Rose Bowl patch (good for him), and nobody is seriously gonna consider revoking his "Formal" status over it?
And why make people constantly put on and remove their squadron patches based on what type of event they're at? Mine is currently on my flightsuit, and I like it there. I'm part of Shadow Squadron, and I'm proud of that whether it's a Formal or Informal event. Being part of a RL squadron shoudn't be something we're embarassed about. Cause you know there's worse things in the world then peopl looking at a rebel pilot walking around, notice the squadron patch on their shoulder and going "Oh, he's with Rebel Legion!" vs "Oh, look it's some rebel pilot."
I think the time has come to re-think the notion that wearing a RLSC Squadron patch makes a costume Informal.
In fact, I think it'd be better for morale and bring the pilots together then anything else that's been suggested. Once someone has joined RL with a Formal pilot costume, I think the best thing the rest of that person's squadron can do is offer them option of wearing their squadron's colors on their shoulder. |
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AMEN Krash!
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| Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 6:12 pm Post subject:
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I'm not a pilot (yet) so take this with a grain of salt, but...
I am working on getting a flight jacket for displaying my base, detachment, wing, squad, etc, etc, etc. affliations' patches. This is so I can 'show my color' while maintaing formal accuracy. And I will not be adding patches to my coat for bases, squadrons, etc. that I DON'T belong to (I know some people put their whole collection on there), instead my non-member patches will be displayed in some other method...
Just my two credis.
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| Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 8:04 pm Post subject:
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| gandalfbmg wrote: | | This is so I can 'show my color' while maintaing formal accuracy. |
But only when you're out of costume, what about when you're "on duty"???
What I'm urging RLSC and RL to consider is to allow pilots (RFTs may want to do this as well someday) the option of wearing their squadron patches and be allowed to maintain their Formal status.
You don't have to do it, but you shouldn't be punished (and many people see "Informal" as a form of punishment) for wanting to. It's making a statement that we're not just a bunch of "independent contractors", or celebrity look-a-likes...but rather part of a larger group.
I'm not saying we need to go NASCAR crazy (multiple badges all over), but allowing for 1 shoulder patch from either the the local Base or Squadron isn't the end of the world.
Matt - Next time you're talking with Steve Sansweet or Mary Franklin...I doubt they'll hold it against us.
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| Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 8:26 pm Post subject:
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Krash, don't worry, the whole patch "thing" is just one of the pilot costume items that Ed and I are considering as we review the Pilot Costume Standards.
(Although I can tell you that if you can find us multiple instances (3) in movies, video games, comics, book covers, etc. that show a pilot wearing a patch would be a tremendous boost for your cause! Obviously, non-LFL fan art doesn't count.)
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| Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 10:14 pm Post subject:
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There's nothing in the current standards that say anything about patches. If you have a spot on costume and you apply, but you have a patch on your shoulder, personally, I'm going to tag you as formal. Now, if it's a LFL event where we're going for completely canon costumes, the patch would be an issue. But, that wasn't the original question. No, having a patch on your shoulder will not tag your costume as informal.
Keep in mind that as Jon said, we'll be reviewing the pilot standards in the near future. The patch issue will be taken into consideration.
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| Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 12:02 am Post subject:
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I'm thinking the RLSC just needs to do a group order on 4" orange velcro 
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