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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2020 8:45 pm    Post subject: Rebel Technician (R1) Reply with quote

JUMPSUIT
- Khaki/off-white long sleeved jumpsuit
- Mandarin collar with flap of same color that covers the throat from left to right
- Cuffs secured with flap of same color
- No visible buttons or zippers
- Horizontal felled seam across top of chest and 2 vertical felled seams going down from it.
- Slash pockets with rounded diagonal opening on torso above and below belt on both sides
- Rectanglular pockets with flaps on thighs and knees
- Pocket with rounded bottom on outside of each arm. Flap on right arm, none on left.
- X-wing style compad on left forearm
- Pant legs are worn tucked into boots

BELT
- Gray or khaki PLCE belt turned inside out
- Silver roll-pin buckle OR silver rectangular buckle with three-dot circle design
- 5 carriage loops that match belt color on each side of buckle
- Hose connectors in carriage loops with ridges worn pointing down

BOOTS
- black or dark brown boots with rounded toes that come up to mid calf
- No visible buckles, zippers, straps, laces, or buttons. Zipper on inside of leg is acceptable

OPTIONAL
- Padded vest in dark blue or dark brown. Vest has heavily padded standing collar. Right side of opening has lighter section with visible snaps for closure. Sides have horizontal-opening rectangular pockets without flaps. Rear bottom hem is slightly elastic for fitting.
- RFT-style helmet without back plate or visor. Must have accurate chinstrap and comm on left side with antenna
- Accurate over-ear headphones
- Comms box with shoulder-strap (like Sergeant Melshi)
- Red flight deck glowrod


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 1:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just to make sure we are all on the same page, we are discussing this group of characters on the left, with inset of a blue vest.



The helmet described is a ANH Yavin technician style helmet with commlink. Ive got all of the parts in question currently approved as other uniforms, however my jumpsuit is not weathered.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes. This is for the group of characters on the left, as well as the guy on the right in the helmet. The Technician style helmet doesn't have the visor or back panel that the RFT helmet does, but it's the same base.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know many Star Wars costume items skew dark blue instead of black, but in this case, I am really convinced this is a mildly weathered black. I'd suggest we look into this a bit more.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 3:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just read the discussions for the R1 A/B troopers. I know in one topic Patricia stated the color of blue used is a very specific blue, and Sam had stated he preferred the term Navy blue.
i want to throw this out there. I have never had success dying stuff. Black dye may cast a different color when applied over real world actual feild gear made of various ballistc cloths.
On the Rebel type A soldiers we see a bluish vest. Same with the tech wearing the hoth style vest.
When photographed on a brightly lit beach, then processed, the color may render completely different. But when photographed in relative shade, the cast is still towards blue.
That said, to me when I see the shades in all these pics, and in my R1 book, it looks like the indigo square here.

So, Terran asked if this is weathered black. I agree that what appears blue may in fact be black that did not dye well and photographs blue. But that would not account for why these vests do have a blue appearance in shadow and in bright sunlight.
Also, the DH-17s are black, and the vests are different.
Im borrowing Patricia's picture to illustrate this.



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

its been five weeks. where do we stand?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

G'nott sH'urr wrote:
I just read the discussions for the R1 A/B troopers. I know in one topic Patricia stated the color of blue used is a very specific blue, and Sam had stated he preferred the term Navy blue.
i want to throw this out there. I have never had success dying stuff. Black dye may cast a different color when applied over real world actual feild gear made of various ballistc cloths.
On the Rebel type A soldiers we see a bluish vest. Same with the tech wearing the hoth style vest.
When photographed on a brightly lit beach, then processed, the color may render completely different. But when photographed in relative shade, the cast is still towards blue.


Rather than it being field gear of ballistic cloth, I would say that in fabric and color the vests are mirroring Cassian's, so a blue nylon. It's fabricated in house by the costuming department. With that said the material is a synthetic, which are a little more work in terms of dyeing as the plastic fibers don't react well to heat. That and it needs a specific dye, i.e. Rit Dyemore.

It would probably be best to find a range of colors of the nylon that can be used and accepted in case an applicant isn't comfortable doing the work. Having burnt a little of the ripstop on my own R1 vest, I can say that wasn't particularly fun.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some of the R1 technican wear same Boots like the Marines !!!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can see at this Technican Marine Boots with Flairs.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another image of the Rogue One Rebel Tech with the Trooper-style ankle boots with ankle flares. The boots appear black in comparison with the trooper directly behind Jyn. Ignore the arrows as this image is taken from another source that was pointing out something else.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Replying to the above image from sam- That could be a generic black boot? I cant see can see the flares?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a little look and those black boots are not the scarif trooper boots. To me they look more like the RFT boots.






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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From watching the movies multiple times, looking at the techs, I see regular old jacks that have been bloused down, or other black boot like an engineer boot.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 1:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The evidence of the footwear being regular jackboots is definitely more prevalent. It may be that the sharp angle on the boot I pointed out was not an ankle cuff like a Scarif Marine, but rather the "dimple" on the knobelbecher jackboot.


On another item, here's a group of photos showing the vest in more detail. I found them in a bunch of the behind the scenes featurette videos found on StarWars.com and the Rogue One blu-ray discs.

FULL ALBUM
https://imgur.com/a/pe3mzBB

There's clear photos of brown vests, and quite a few where it looks a more faded charcoal gray/black color. I actually found a pic from a Rebels Recon feature that shows them side by side. There is brown and there is black/charcoal.



I will give my opinion that none of these tech vests were dark blue. I'd vote we allow brown and faded black.







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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The technicians have two versions of boots. Some wear the black jackboots that the pilots have, and others wear the boots with anklet cuffs that the Scarif Marines. Since technicians wear both types of both in the film and behind-the-scenes material, both types of boots should be approvable for this costume.

The color of the dark brown vests is easily distinguishable. I am not sure about the second version of the vest. Its color could be a washed-out black or navy/night blue.
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