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KittyKat (Kat Moore)
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great input from everyone into this. Thank you to Kristina for making sucha fab break down.


Just having a look through all the refs and have a few little bits noted.

Ruching on sleeve looks to be hand sewn on the outside at the elbow for 2-3", not above or below.

There also appears to be an inner sleeve on one ref for which I suspect is an undershirt due to the nature of the tunic fabric being worn, especially around the neck and chest where the cowl drapes (it would also fold to the inside scratching the neck area) - this could potentially be an optional seeing as it is not seen but some may need an additional layer.

The cloak/ vest appears to be lined in a corded material, but I don't think it is a faille. I would say due to the nature of the cloak and the stiffness needed, that it is more likely a baby needle cord. That cloak is likely going to need horse hair canvas or heavy weight drill as an inner layer for construction (I used similar for the Crait cloak construction). Expect this cloak to be heavy.

The shoulders. Have they made additional shoulder pads or padded bolero for shaping?

The collar appears to be made of four pieces (two pairs). One of the lines Kristina drew appears to go right through the collar, which can be seen in side refs as it cuts through at an angle.


Just a few thoughts. I agree on the colouring that has been mentioned which are backed up with the colour pulls. More purple undertones in the cloak rather than blue.

I think you have all pretty much covered the inverted pleats and seams!
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello ladies,
I've just spent the past 2 days writing up my build for the belt. I posted it in my WIP. It's on the 2nd page. http://www.forum.rebellegion.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1128428#1128428

This was very frustrating to figure out, but once I did, with some help and tips along the way, it was fun making it. Now you don't have to invent the wheel. I am happy to share my build.

I have a separate word doc I can send you if you'd like, Just message me.

MTFBWY!
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2020 1:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Almost done incorporating all of the revisions. Smile I could use some help on the wording for the colors, though- do we have a consensus for a range?
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2020 2:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Which piece or pieces are you unsure of the color range?

I think the cloak should mainly be a range of greys, but if someone found the perfect Brownish -purple I think that should be acceptable. Grey is what most of us are going to find though. Soooo....

The blouse only looks rose or mauve under bright lighting. On screen and in person you see the darker burgundy red.

This is what I'm thinking...

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2020 3:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I need color names. Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2020 3:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahhhh, I see. I'll work on mine and get it back to you.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2020 4:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here are my color names:

Pants: Wine to Dark Plum

Blouse: Dusty Rose to Rosewood to Wine or Red Burgundy

Cloak: Medium to Dark greys (Grey, Fossil, Steel, Iron) to Dark Purple Taupe.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2020 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im pretty sure its a grosgrain from the refs, thats what they used for the hux and yes..... it is a massive nightmare, im sure we had this debate with the inside of the handmaiden hood. i did buy samples to go down your route of thinking but the needlecord didnt allow for the way it changes in the light.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok! So sorry for the delay, getting writing done with my husband teaching from home has been... challenging. Yay, covid? I think I have included most of the feedback. Let me know if I missed anything!


General Leia, TROS


https://imgur.com/RKqIWc1
Image Source: starwarsscreencaps.com

CHARACTER DESCRIPTION:
Leia Organa Solo (born Leia Amidala Skywalker) was, at various stages of her life, a politician, revolutionary, and Jedi Knight of the New Jedi Order. The daughter of Jedi Knight Anakin Skywalker and Senator Padmé Amidala of Naboo, Leia was the younger twin sister of Luke Skywalker, and, shortly after her birth, she became the adopted daughter of Bail Organa and Queen Breha of Alderaan, making her a Princess of Alderaan. An accomplished Senator, Leia Organa was most famous for her strong leadership during the Galactic Civil War and other subsequent galactic conflicts, making her one of the galaxy’s greatest heroes. (Source Wookieepedia)



Blouse/Tunic:
    • Rough weave gauze linen, cotton or similar
    • Accepted colors range from a deep dusty rose/reddish plum to a wine/reddish burgundy (see color pulls)
    • High cowl neckline reaching just above the base of the neck.
    • Bias cut tunic ends just below the hips/upper thigh.
    • Sleeves are straight, cut to wrist length with tucks or ruching along the underarm seam at the elbow that shorten them to ¾ length. Ruching is only at the elbow for approximately 5-7.6 cm (2-3 inches).


https://imgur.com/4Ws6gtP
https://imgur.com/gAe4XiN
Color Pulls

https://imgur.com/ZXebceK
https://imgur.com/O0MeBIK
https://imgur.com/n4kGaq2
Image Source: JenEyre TROS Los Angeles Premiere Display

https://imgur.com/hlHwctt
Image Source: Endor Express, LFL Press Preview

https://imgur.com/24pj1MM
https://imgur.com/LPj3Tn0
https://imgur.com/16273jR
https://imgur.com/xjUVVW6
https://imgur.com/4iUv8ZV
doinit4carrie, LFL Costume Viewing Pictures

https://imgur.com/LAnl6Z1
https://imgur.com/RKqIWc1
Image Source: starwarsscreencaps.com

Trousers:
    • Wide legged pants similar to palazzo pants.
    • A bottomweight knit in a dark plum, wine or burgundy. Color is in the same family as the blouse, but a shade darker.
    • Hem almost touches the ground.


https://imgur.com/NcaR62A
https://imgur.com/qVQgDj5
Image Source: doinit4carrie, LFL Costume Viewing Pictures

Waistcoat:
    • Long sleeveless vest ending approximately 4 cm (1 ½ inches) above the floor.
    • Twill or similar fabric (screen-used fabric was silk) in a dark grey such as slate, charcoal, or steel. Grey may have purple undertones.
    • Outer fabric has quilted rectangles* approximately 1.6 cm (⅝ inches) by 4 cm (1½ inches).
    • Vest lined with a black corded fabric; screen-used was likely a faillie (similar to grosgrain) or a thin waled corduroy such as a needlecord.
    • Front features shaping seams that run from the top of the collar, over the shoulder across the bust and to the hem. These seams help create the front pieces of the standing collar.
    • Collar reaches to just below the earlobes in front and the nape of the neck in back. The collar consists of four pieces. The front pieces are cut as part of the vest front; the back pieces are set into the neckline with a center back seam. The quilting angles away from this seam forming inverted V-shapes.
    • Shoulder seam sits approximately 5 cm (2 inches) toward the back, meeting the collar almost at the center back. Seam runs parallel to a traditional shoulder seam.
    • Inside the top of the armhole there is a padded section covered in the vest fashion fabric, quilted horizontally, and positioned like a shoulder pad.
    • Waistcoat back has three vertical seams; a center back seam and two side seams. The side seams are positioned 2/3 thirds the distance from the center back to the armscye on either side of the center.
    • There is an inverted box pleat at the top of the center back which is stitched closed for about 7.6 cm (three inches) before opening.
    • There is one inverted box pleat on each side, directly under the armpit. The pleats are stitched closed, opening at the hip.
    • There is an additional side seam, each side, starting at the back edge of the armpit, no pleats.
    • Cloak flares very slightly at the hip increasing in width to the bottom.

Optional:
    • Monotone herringbone weave
    • Metallic thread used for vertical quilting
    • Couched cording for horizontal quilting on vest
    • Seam allowance on back side seams is pressed to one side creating a deep seam.

*The screen-used vest created the horizontal lines with couched cording.

https://imgur.com/G1j1rUg
Image Source: Endor Express, LFL Press Preview

https://imgur.com/OD35289
https://imgur.com/qizIASx
https://imgur.com/RKqIWc1
https://imgur.com/fBYBTks
https://imgur.com/0SgwnPJ
https://imgur.com/Jw2XI1p
https://imgur.com/zOx0eTr
Image Source: starwarsscreencaps.com

https://imgur.com/UPp0FEG
https://imgur.com/qFNl3b0
https://imgur.com/COJYwne
https://imgur.com/9YN7QIJ
https://imgur.com/ronCMZu
https://imgur.com/R2YKCA3
https://imgur.com/aeB9eUH
https://imgur.com/ZtiHxIk
https://imgur.com/tYT4Yo1
Image Source: doinit4carrie, LFL Costume Viewing Pictures

https://imgur.com/XQYHF6f
https://imgur.com/ZbfEWeR
https://imgur.com/B38WFM6
https://imgur.com/WXv6ICO
https://imgur.com/88aMrxw
https://imgur.com/XdY7RVn
https://imgur.com/v6c59dM
Image Source: JenEyre TROS Los Angeles Premiere Display

https://imgur.com/lCx4lMG
https://imgur.com/ZLjVxBi
https://imgur.com/KkQKGlL
Marked References

Belt:
    • Belt consists of two rows of linked brass tubes that run parallel to one another on either side of a weathered brass toned buckle. The rows are connected to the buckle, but the top and bottom are independent of one another.
    • Each brass tube is approximately 4 cm (1 ½ inches) tall. The tubes are connected with silver toned wire threaded through the center to create linked rectangles.
    • Links are connected to the buckle with a brown leather or leather-like strap that threads through the center of the buckle. Each row is connected to a separate strap.
    • Buckle is a modified trefoil shape.* The buckle has a center section and two outer sections. The center piece is wider at the top, curving in at the middle and widening again at the bottom. The top is a convex petal shape, while the bottom is a larger concave petal shape. The outer edges are shaped like narrow ellipses. All three sections have two upper and two lower slots for the leather strap to thread through.

Optional:
    • The buckle surface may have a hammered or scored texture.

*Buckle shape is similar to the TFA buckle, but is larger, wider, and more symmetrical.

https://imgur.com/cThmdYe
https://imgur.com/16273jR
https://imgur.com/oCVTk83
https://imgur.com/VjQ5cqD
https://imgur.com/brIqz5w
Image Source: doinit4carrie, LFL Costume Viewing Pictures

Boots:
    • Dark brown or black leather or leather-like boot.
    • Rounded toe.
    • Low block heel- approximately 4 - 5 cm (1 ½ - 2 inches) tall.
    • Plain boot without visible straps or buckles, hidden inside zip is allowed.


https://imgur.com/YbK8kZ6
https://imgur.com/yzOqBBS
https://imgur.com/Aqt3aNP
Image Source: starwarsscreencaps.com

Jewelry:
    • Gold or bronze toned ear cuffs that curl around the lower ear lobe and extend up the back of the ear. May have a hammered finish.
    • Gold or bronze toned wrist cuff approximately (7.6 cm) 3 inches wide worn on the right wrist consisting of a thin wired effect. The wrist cuff features a gradual wave pattern. The wire sections may have irregular indentations.
    • Long gold or bronze toned ring featuring two intersecting arches and set with two circular blue stones worn on the right ring finger.
    • Large gold or bronze blue-teal tone oval ring worn on the left ring finger. (Mainly blue with flecks of other colors recommended). Ring setting is made of tentacle-like prongs.


https://imgur.com/LFUghNR
https://imgur.com/zOx0eTr
https://imgur.com/xidjuRG
https://imgur.com/UWnEHtd
https://imgur.com/rNXqpwj
Image Source: starwarsscreencaps.com

https://imgur.com/UPp0FEG
https://imgur.com/qFNl3b0
https://imgur.com/plGXS6A
Image Source: doinit4carrie, LFL Costume Viewing Pictures

Note: Jewelry is all reused. The earrings are the ones worn with her Crait costume, and the bracelet and rings are worn with her Raddus bridge costume.

Hair:
    • Swept back and divided into two sections at the nape of the neck. No visible part.
    • At the nape each section is twisted and crossed at the nape. There are two loose buns that lead into the twists wrapping up over the top of the head like a headband.*
    • Brownish grey hair preferred, any naturally occurring color accepted.
    • If a wig or extensions are used, they should be high quality and look like hair.

*The twisted headband is often referred to as a “mourning braid”.

https://imgur.com/rNXqpwj
https://imgur.com/0p52Nkh
https://imgur.com/9y4r2Ik
https://imgur.com/rCIGbGI
https://imgur.com/3MMcwNB
https://imgur.com/YVFMdjD
https://imgur.com/zOx0eTr
https://imgur.com/jOBz3la
Image Source: starwarsscreencaps.com

This draft is collated from comments and observations from doinit4carrie, RogueWic, RebelLady, ibejedi, and tenebris.

Resource Thread:
http://www.forum.rebellegion.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=110626
Amy’s Reference Album:
https://www.flickr.com/gp/amyyoungspix/p52474
Detachment Reference Album (sources noted in captions): https://imgur.com/a/mPYX82g
SongofAmazon’s LA Premiere Photos:
https://www.facebook.com/pg/songofamazon/photos/?tab=album&album_id=1398538223650634
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