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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 9:08 pm    Post subject: [Open discussion][Rewrite] Kyle Katarn-Comic(Dark Forces II) Reply with quote

I'd like to recommend making some changes to the Kyle Katarn (Dark Forces II) standards.

Firstly, a word about the standards themselves:
I feel the wording is a little vague throughout, and could use an update. Furthermore, the part on weaponry is confusing, and leads people to believe that they can only carry either a blaster OR a Lightsaber, but not both. Kyle does, in fact, carry both his Lightsaber and his Bryar pistol constantly in Dark Forces II and beyond.

Secondly, I'd like to add an item to the list:
Kyle wears a brown jacket in this game on several occasions (as well as in previous and later appearances in other media), so I feel that it should be an optional item for this standard, and any future standards written for a Kyle Katarn costume (provided it matches one of the instances below).

I've taken the liberty of writing a newer, updated version of the standards for this outfit:

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Required Items:

1. Inner Shirt-
Light gray crew-neck undershirt, or false undershirt "bib" that fills neck gap of outer shirt entirely.

2. Outer Shirt-
Long-sleeved, collarless off-white or beige thermal shirt, with narrow V or U shaped gap at the neck. Black panels under the arms. Center seam across the chest, broken by the neck gap.

3. Armor-
Light to medium brown shoulder pad on right shoulder, made from leather, suede, or leather/suede-like material. Soft athletic padding is also acceptable as long as it matches the three-sectional design, and has an accurate finish (no gloss).

4. Gauntlets-
Medium to dark brown leather or vinyl forearm bracers. Must bind by snaps or velcro (no laces).

5. Pants-
Black utility trousers with cargo-style pockets on the outside of both legs. Two back pockets.

6. Belt-
Wide brown utility belt, with screen-accurate hip panels, and one kidney panel, connected by flat, rectangular sections, all made of leather or leather-like material. Front panels should overlap one-another slightly when closed, and be bound by double-layering of leather straps that buckle over midsection with square buckles. Belt should be worn at the midsection, and be thick enough to reach from naval to mid-pelvis.
Belt features:
- Droid caller, secured to the belt on the right side by a black leather strap. Strap should loop vertically over the caller to secure it, and descend below the hip flap.
- Lightsaber Hook, threaded or riveted through the dangling portion of the droid caller strap. Length of strap and hook should cause Lightsaber to hang against the wearer's thigh.
- Cross-draw holster made from brown leather, or leather-like material. Should be attached to Left hip or pelvic area of the belt, and be constructed in a tube or solid pouch shape to snugly fit blaster. No fastening straps, handle and rear body of blaster should remain exposed when sitting in holster.
-Three silver, rectangular objects mounted to the back kidney panel of the belt. Panels may be metal or leather decorations, but may also be containers, as long as they are plain, and match the visual look required.

7. Boots-
Brown or black mid-calf length boots. No visible zippers, but discreet inner zippers are acceptable. Should be made from leather or leather-like material.
OR
Black Combat boots with laces.
OR
Combat boots with black boot toppers that reach mid-calf. Must match material of the combat boots, and cover laces.
NOTE: If wearing combat boots, pants should be un-tucked and worn naturally, but if wearing mid-calf boots without laces, or boot toppers without laces, pants should be tucked into them with minimal blousing.

8. Blaster pistol-
Bryar Pistol. Any version of the Bryar will be acceptable, as long as it fits snug into cross-draw holster.

9. Lightsaber-
Cylindrical average length saber hilt, silver or weathered gray. D-ring or similar mechanism to hang saber from belt. Should be either green or yellow bladed. No toy lightsabers.

10. Hair-
Short brown hair, trimmed beard.

Optional Item:

Jacket-
A brown field jacket, waist-length, with a mandarin collar (sometimes standing, sometimes folded down), with smaller lapels. Horizontal seam across the chest with either pocket flap or rectangular patch for absent rank badge on left breast, just below chest seam. Pocket slits near the waistline. Horizontal seam across the shoulder blades on the back of the jacket, and a vertical seam running up the spine of the back, ending at the shoulder seam. Jacket should be made of either leather, leather-like material, cotton, or canvas.
NOTE: If made of leather, should be faded and worn, and if cotton/canvas, it should be waxed to give it a slight sheen.

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Here are my references to justify the addition of the jacket to these and future standards where it is applicable:


DARK FORCES

Cutscene 01


Cutscene 02



DARK FORCES II: JEDI KNIGHT

Cutscene 01


Cutscene 02






Cutscene 03



DARK FORCES III: JEDI OUTCAST

Concept Art


Promo Art


Unlockable skin based on "Dark Forces" look


Unlockable skin based on "New Jedi Order" look



STAR WARS TALES #21 "EQUALS AND OPPOSITES"

Comic panel



LETHAL ALLIANCE

In-game appearance (takes place just before Battle of Yavin)



NEW JEDI ORDER NOVELS

Jedi Conclave on Zonoma Sekot Illustration


Mara Jade's Funeral Illustration

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thank you for starting this revision.

yours
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Edited the format to make it cleaner and easier to follow.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

UNDER CONSTRUCTION

Open for changes and comments until:
2018


Quote:

Standard Name: Kyle Katarn - Comics (Dark Forces II)
Primary Detachment: KJO
Submission Date:
Existing Standard URL: http://newsite.rebellegion.com/kyle-katarn-jedi-knight-dark-forces-ii/

Front Image:
Source:

Back / Second View Image
Source:

Character Description
Kyle Katarn was a famous Human male Rebel operative from Sulon and later a Jedi of the New Jedi Order. He was a former Imperial stormtrooper who defected to the Rebellion. Often paired with fellow Rebel agent and smuggler Jan Ors, he performed many covert missions for the Rebel Alliance and later the New Republic, including the sabotage of the Dark Trooper Project.

Katarn was later informed of his Force sensitivity, and taught himself to become a Jedi while in search of the Valley of the Jedi. During this journey, he confronted the dark side within both himself and in the form of the Dark Jedi Jerec and his minions. After defeating them, Katarn went on to become a Jedi Master, teaching at the Jedi Praxeum. He participated in the offensives against the Yuuzhan Vong and became a part of the Jedi High Council in the New Jedi Order.

Required Items
Head:
Required Details:
    - Short brown hair, trimmed beard.


Inner Shirt:
Required Details:
    - Light gray crew-neck undershirt, or false undershirt "bib" that fills neck gap of outer shirt entirely.


Outer Shirt:
Required Details:
    - Long-sleeved, collarless off-white or beige thermal shirt, with narrow V or U shaped gap at the neck. Black panels under the arms. Center seam across the chest, broken by the neck gap.


Armour:
Required Details:
    - Light to medium brown shoulder pad on right shoulder, made from leather, suede, or leather/suede-like material. Soft athletic padding is also acceptable as long as it matches the three-sectional design, and has an accurate finish (no gloss).


Gauntlets:
Required Details:
    - Medium to dark brown leather or vinyl forearm bracers. Must bind by snaps or velcro (no laces).


Belt:
Required Details:
    - Wide brown utility belt, with screen-accurate hip panels, and one kidney panel, connected by flat, rectangular sections, all made of leather or leather-like material. Front panels should overlap one-another slightly when closed, and be bound by double-layering of leather straps that buckle over midsection with square buckles. Belt should be worn at the midsection, and be thick enough to reach from naval to mid-pelvis.
    Belt features:
    -Three silver, rectangular objects mounted to the back kidney panel of the belt. Panels may be metal or leather decorations, but may also be containers, as long as they are plain, and match the visual look required.


Holster:
Required Details:
    - - Cross-draw holster made from brown leather, or leather-like material. Should be attached to Left hip or pelvic area of the belt, and be constructed in a tube or solid pouch shape to snugly fit blaster. No fastening straps, handle and rear body of blaster should remain exposed when sitting in holster.


Lightsaber Hook:
Required Details:
    - - Lightsaber Hook, threaded or riveted through the dangling portion of the droid caller strap. Length of strap and hook should cause Lightsaber to hang against the wearer's thigh.


Droid Caller:
Required Details:
    - - Droid caller, secured to the belt on the right side by a black leather strap. Strap should loop vertically over the caller to secure it, and descend below the hip flap.


Boots:
Required Details:
    - Brown or black mid-calf length boots. No visible zippers, but discreet inner zippers are acceptable. Should be made from leather or leather-like material.
    OR
    Black Combat boots with laces.
    OR
    Combat boots with black boot toppers that reach mid-calf. Must match material of the combat boots, and cover laces.
    NOTE: If wearing combat boots, pants should be un-tucked and worn naturally, but if wearing mid-calf boots without laces, or boot toppers without laces, pants should be tucked into them with minimal blousing.


Blaster:
Required Details:
    - Bryar Pistol. Any version of the Bryar will be acceptable, as long as it fits snug into cross-draw holster.


Lightsaber:
Required Details:
    - Cylindrical average length saber hilt, silver or weathered gray. D-ring or similar mechanism to hang saber from belt. Should be either green or yellow bladed. No toy lightsabers.

    Silver coloured lightsaber hilt.
    - The lightsaber may be a static prop (hilt-only).
    - Attached blade(s), LED lights, and sound effects, are allowed but not required.
    - If bladed must be purple.
    - No toy sabers, no Ultimate FX short saber.



Optional Details:
    -



Optional Items:

Jacket:
Required Details:
    - A brown field jacket, waist-length, with a mandarin collar (sometimes standing, sometimes folded down), with smaller lapels. Horizontal seam across the chest with either pocket flap or rectangular patch for absent rank badge on left breast, just below chest seam. Pocket slits near the waistline. Horizontal seam across the shoulder blades on the back of the jacket, and a vertical seam running up the spine of the back, ending at the shoulder seam. Jacket should be made of either leather, leather-like material, cotton, or canvas.
    NOTE: If made of leather, should be faded and worn, and if cotton/canvas, it should be waxed to give it a slight sheen.


Costume Resources:
- Reference Photo Gallery -

http://www.drkf.8m.com/starwars/kyletutorial.htm
http://s107.photobucket.com/albums/m305/Koda_Vonnor/
Author:
Koda Vonnor (Bill Costigan), Merc_with_a_Bryar (Sam Falco)

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello everyone!

We are going to reactivate that thread for two weeks to create a completed Standard. All members are invited to participate in the discussion. All can provide images, references and information. All is important.

Final date: 01/31/2019

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could this sudden re-activation have something to do with a recent application for costume approval?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thorn_Korrd wrote:
Could this sudden re-activation have something to do with a recent application for costume approval?


Hello Thorn_Korrd

No, it is not related to what you say. We only reactivate the thread so that we can rewrite the Standard with the new format since it was started.

Yours!
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thorn_Korrd wrote:
Could this sudden re-activation have something to do with a recent application for costume approval?


Hello Thorn_Korrd

No, it is not related to what you say. We only reactivate the thread so that we can rewrite the Standard with the new format since it was started.

Yours!
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello everyone.

Any suggested changes for this new Costume?

We can give another week for debate

Yours!
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The last version!

We can continue this discussion

Quote:

Standard Name: Kyle Katarn - Comics (Dark Forces II)
Primary Detachment: KJO
Submission Date:
Existing Standard URL: http://newsite.rebellegion.com/kyle-katarn-jedi-knight-dark-forces-ii/

Front Image:
Source:

Back / Second View Image
Source:

Character Description
Kyle Katarn was a famous Human male Rebel operative from Sulon and later a Jedi of the New Jedi Order. He was a former Imperial stormtrooper who defected to the Rebellion. Often paired with fellow Rebel agent and smuggler Jan Ors, he performed many covert missions for the Rebel Alliance and later the New Republic, including the sabotage of the Dark Trooper Project.

Katarn was later informed of his Force sensitivity, and taught himself to become a Jedi while in search of the Valley of the Jedi. During this journey, he confronted the dark side within both himself and in the form of the Dark Jedi Jerec and his minions. After defeating them, Katarn went on to become a Jedi Master, teaching at the Jedi Praxeum. He participated in the offensives against the Yuuzhan Vong and became a part of the Jedi High Council in the New Jedi Order.

Required Items
Head:
Required Details:
    - Short brown hair, trimmed beard.


Inner Shirt:
Required Details:
    - Light gray crew-neck undershirt, or false undershirt "bib" that fills neck gap of outer shirt entirely.


Outer Shirt:
Required Details:
    - Long-sleeved, collarless off-white or beige thermal shirt, with narrow V or U shaped gap at the neck. Black panels under the arms. Center seam across the chest, broken by the neck gap.


Armour:
Required Details:
    - Light to medium brown shoulder pad on right shoulder, made from leather, suede, or leather/suede-like material. Soft athletic padding is also acceptable as long as it matches the three-sectional design, and has an accurate finish (no gloss).


Gauntlets:
Required Details:
    - Medium to dark brown leather or vinyl forearm bracers. Must bind by snaps or velcro (no laces).


Belt:
Required Details:
    - Wide brown utility belt, with screen-accurate hip panels, and one kidney panel, connected by flat, rectangular sections, all made of leather or leather-like material. Front panels should overlap one-another slightly when closed, and be bound by double-layering of leather straps that buckle over midsection with square buckles. Belt should be worn at the midsection, and be thick enough to reach from naval to mid-pelvis.
    Belt features:
    -Three silver, rectangular objects mounted to the back kidney panel of the belt. Panels may be metal or leather decorations, but may also be containers, as long as they are plain, and match the visual look required.


Holster:
Required Details:
    - - Cross-draw holster made from brown leather, or leather-like material. Should be attached to Left hip or pelvic area of the belt, and be constructed in a tube or solid pouch shape to snugly fit blaster. No fastening straps, handle and rear body of blaster should remain exposed when sitting in holster.


Lightsaber Hook:
Required Details:
    - - Lightsaber Hook, threaded or riveted through the dangling portion of the droid caller strap. Length of strap and hook should cause Lightsaber to hang against the wearer's thigh.


Droid Caller:
Required Details:
    - - Droid caller, secured to the belt on the right side by a black leather strap. Strap should loop vertically over the caller to secure it, and descend below the hip flap.


Boots:
Required Details:
    - Brown or black mid-calf length boots. No visible zippers, but discreet inner zippers are acceptable. Should be made from leather or leather-like material.
    OR
    Black Combat boots with laces.
    OR
    Combat boots with black boot toppers that reach mid-calf. Must match material of the combat boots, and cover laces.
    NOTE: If wearing combat boots, pants should be un-tucked and worn naturally, but if wearing mid-calf boots without laces, or boot toppers without laces, pants should be tucked into them with minimal blousing.


Blaster:
Required Details:
    - Bryar Pistol. Any version of the Bryar will be acceptable, as long as it fits snug into cross-draw holster.


Lightsaber:
Required Details:
    - Cylindrical average length saber hilt, silver or weathered gray. D-ring or similar mechanism to hang saber from belt. Should be either green or yellow bladed. No toy lightsabers.

    Silver coloured lightsaber hilt.
    - The lightsaber may be a static prop (hilt-only).
    - Attached blade(s), LED lights, and sound effects, are allowed but not required.
    - If bladed must be purple.
    - No toy sabers, no Ultimate FX short saber.



Optional Details:
    -



Optional Items:

Jacket:
Required Details:
    - A brown field jacket, waist-length, with a mandarin collar (sometimes standing, sometimes folded down), with smaller lapels. Horizontal seam across the chest with either pocket flap or rectangular patch for absent rank badge on left breast, just below chest seam. Pocket slits near the waistline. Horizontal seam across the shoulder blades on the back of the jacket, and a vertical seam running up the spine of the back, ending at the shoulder seam. Jacket should be made of either leather, leather-like material, cotton, or canvas.
    NOTE: If made of leather, should be faded and worn, and if cotton/canvas, it should be waxed to give it a slight sheen.


Costume Resources:
- Reference Photo Gallery -

http://www.drkf.8m.com/starwars/kyletutorial.htm
http://s107.photobucket.com/albums/m305/Koda_Vonnor/
Author:
Koda Vonnor (Bill Costigan), Merc_with_a_Bryar (Sam Falco)


We need references images!

Yours!
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