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Leather Pouch Tutorial (RE: Owi-wan Kenobi, ROTS + others)
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jedjools wrote:
Hi love your pouches, am just in the process of getting my FIRST costume together Generic Jedi, and want to get 2 pouches both usable and one big enough to put my phone into.
Just wondering if you have the pouches etc..(belt ?) for sale, as think it would be hard for me to make maybe, i am in the UK.

May the force be with you always!
Jools


Hi Jools,

I'm sorry, but I'm not making these for sale to the general RL membership at this time. I believe there are some who make similar pouches and Jedi belts. Good luck to you!
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am a little nervous about using leather. Is it possible to use faux leather/marine vinyl for belts and pouches? I cannot hand sew things.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mignonmenzies wrote:
I am a little nervous about using leather. Is it possible to use faux leather/marine vinyl for belts and pouches? I cannot hand sew things.


Well...if you can sew anything with a machine, then leather shouldn't scare you. The tutorial is pretty straight forward and if you follow it you really should have no problems. In fact, some of the local leather shops around where I live will gladly have you come over for lessons and will help you make your stuff. They do this so that you feel comfortable in the store and with leather so that you buy more stuff from them!

As for using fake leather or various polymers for making Jedi pouches? Yeah, you can use those. There are some fairly decent fake leather fabrics at my local Walmart. Perhaps veneering them to some craft foam and some selected weathering, you might can get them to look respectable, but...in the end, you'll spend less time and effort using real leather Wink Would these be approved by the LCJs for face character costumes? I have no clue on that (even though I used to be a judge and served as the LMO). What is accepted and how picky the LCJs are depends on who's in charge at the time...and the pendulum swings back and forth between being too overly picky and too lax.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's more a can't with leather working. I have a severely damaged right wrist and most things that require hand work are very hard for me. If I can't sew it on a machine it doesn't happen. I am seeing the tool you used for the lines and the hand sewing you did and I'm thinking I wouldn't be able to grip the tools. Sad
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mignonmenzies wrote:
It's more a can't with leather working. I have a severely damaged right wrist and most things that require hand work are very hard for me. If I can't sew it on a machine it doesn't happen. I am seeing the tool you used for the lines and the hand sewing you did and I'm thinking I wouldn't be able to grip the tools. Sad


Well...you can make pouches out of anything, even a thinner faux leather fabric and sew them. You can also order them from various vendors (civilizedgalacticgear.com for one, though they're somewhat expensive). And some folks here make them. You'd also probably come out better ordering crappy ones and reshaping and/or repainting them to make them look better. Bottom line is: there are options Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

EeanLedgor, thank you so much for the fantastic tutorials. I'm currently in the middle of the pouches and the belt. I did have a quick question. When I dampened and molded the pouches they dried VERY hard, almost as if they had been water-hardened. I've never worked with leather before so I have no idea if this it typical. How stiff were your pouches when you un-molded them?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello there!

Since I used leather in the 6-7 oz range, it was rather stiff, just as you described. But once I got things glued together, tacked with a few "hidden" stitches, stained and polished (sealed), they softened up (not SUPER soft, but definitely flexible and not stiff like after demolding).

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Aiacha wrote:
EeanLedgor, thank you so much for the fantastic tutorials. I'm currently in the middle of the pouches and the belt. I did have a quick question. When I dampened and molded the pouches they dried VERY hard, almost as if they had been water-hardened. I've never worked with leather before so I have no idea if this it typical. How stiff were your pouches when you un-molded them?

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

EeanLedgor wrote:
Hello there!

Since I used leather in the 6-7 oz range, it was rather stiff, just as you described. But once I got things glued together, tacked with a few "hidden" stitches, stained and polished (sealed), they softened up (not SUPER soft, but definitely flexible and not stiff like after demolding).

Hope this helps!


Ah, it does, thanks! I'm less worried I messed them up Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 12:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A few months back, I made one of these, and did a few alterations.

1. I wanted this to fit my phone, so I printed out the pattern page (using KDThompson's great patterns linked in the lower part of the first page of this thread, what a timesaver!) in 90%, 95%, 100%, 105%, 110% and laid my phone on each until I found one that would probably work.

2. I used the channel/ groove in the face to put the stitching in (rather than glue) so it will be a much stronger pouch. The side leather should be more thin and "stretchy" so that the phone will bulge out a little, but well within the sides still. Use dark brown thread, so that it disappears into the dark groove after dyeing.

3. Rather than the store-made closure, I carved out a spot for a fender washer, and another for a small square super magnet on the flap, and glued them in with contact cement. Then I took a very thin circle (black leather in the pics) and skived the edges even thinner, and glued that on, to keep it all in place and keep it from scratching the phone. Do the inside fender washer before sewing it together.

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stitches in the "groove."



Carving out a spot for the washer with wood gouges.



Fender washer sealed in with thinner leather patch.



Square magnet gets sealed in the same way.



Finished pouch on the far right.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent mod Colin! Thanks for sharing.
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