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Costumebase updating its TFA flightsuit/vest this summer
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 1:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just got one of these and wore it for the first time today.

Now I'm a complete newb here

Flight suit
The chap pockets you put the hose in aren't sealed on the bottom. Is that right? It was really annoying having the hose go in past my knee every time I sat down. The zipper is the crappiest zipper I've had the displeasure of using. It requires two hands because it sticks so much. Cuffs are obviously the wrong color.

Vest
I can already tell this is going to require a lot of work. The snack bag is too small and the flap is all wrong. The right left connector in the middle is connecting the wrong layer of the vest from what I can tell from pics, and of course it should be a plastic plate. The inner and outer vests need connected in the front on the inside edge, though I'm not sure how long that is. The straps hanging down on the outside of the outer vest are too long and need sewn in. The back of the vest is all one layer rather than having an inner layer with the horizontal stripe portion riding on top.

Chest box- I'm just going to have to 3d print one. Not worth fixing. Wrong shape.

Gloves- look okayish, but the pleather is already splitting in places after one day.

Belt- well they tried I guess. Maybe I can reuse some of the strapping.

Need to find plans for the holster and the leg flare holder though.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 7:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Surprisingly the vest doesn't look too bad, at least from the front. The ribbing looks like little pillows, though. Heh. The black circle on the vest should be off-center and is the black just a print or is it under a white cloth ring? It should be the latter but I can't tell what it is in your picture. The black circle should have a clothing ring (the same material as the vest) with a black mesh behind it and some black fabric or something else behind it so that the white isn't seen through the mesh.

The chaps should be sewn down around the legs, yeah. The suit is just a pair of coveralls with chaps over the legs (it's technically called an "anti-G suit", not chaps, but that's another matter). There shouldn't be any open in the chaps except for the top and the bottom of all pockets should be sewn closed.

The chestbox may actually be able to be used if you give it a better paint job and put in the green LED light.

The band between the the "wings" of the flak vest, where the vest buckle/chest plate is, should be a white vinyl sport mesh, or another type of white mesh.

There's a pattern for the Glie-44 holster on the forum. The leg flare holster is pretty easy, it's just a length of smoke gray/charcoal grey seat belt webbing that wraps around the leg and Velcros closed in the back. Off-center to the outside of the leg is a set of five loops for the flares, which is just a piece of the webbing sewn over the top of the longer piece.

Holster pattern: http://www.forum.rebellegion.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=80887
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 3:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My guess is that future pilots should only get the flightsuit + vest from CB, and source the other parts from elsewhere (e.g., gloves from WW).

3D printing a chestbox is probably the way to go, especially if it's fitted to have a PCB for internal lighting.

Has anyone heard of other RL members working with CB on their offering? It'd be great if we could get a lower cost entry point for future pilots worldwide.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheRulesLawyer wrote:
Flight suit
The chap pockets you put the hose in aren't sealed on the bottom. Is that right? It was really annoying having the hose go in past my knee every time I sat down. The zipper is the crappiest zipper I've had the displeasure of using. It requires two hands because it sticks so much. Cuffs are obviously the wrong color.


I'm guessing that they made the chaps & lower legs out of one piece, and the upper legs go down into the chaps and aren't stitched around the knees. Yes, the chaps should only come down to the knees, and stitched to the legs, creating that "pocket" for the hose... which, you can also stick into the left cargo pocket optionally.

What material did they make the suit from? Did they put the correct ruffle trim on the arms?


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Vest
I can already tell this is going to require a lot of work. The snack bag is too small and the flap is all wrong. The right left connector in the middle is connecting the wrong layer of the vest from what I can tell from pics, and of course it should be a plastic plate. The inner and outer vests need connected in the front on the inside edge, though I'm not sure how long that is. The straps hanging down on the outside of the outer vest are too long and need sewn in. The back of the vest is all one layer rather than having an inner layer with the horizontal stripe portion riding on top.


"Snack bag"... you mean the pouch on the right side?
Yeah, the under layer of the vest should be stitched all the way around the inside edges to the top "Mae West" portion. More solid foam sheeting should be in the rectangular padded parts, to give it a cleaner look... I use 1/4" dense foam in my vests, cut to 3/4" or 7/8" wide depending on the vest size. The padded sections on the under layer need to be brought down lower, as with Snap's here:


And yes, the back should have the large padded panel separate, stitched at the top & bottom:



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Gloves- look okayish, but the pleather is already splitting in places after one day.


THAT sucks. Go with Wampa's gloves if you can!


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Belt- well they tried I guess. Maybe I can reuse some of the strapping.


I can't see your belt, if it is correct to the PLCE or not, or the paddles, but what little of the roll-pin buckles I can see, they look skinny. All the front bits should look like this:


If the upper webbing that holds the paddles and goes up around the belt is 2", that's good.... the leg straps should be 1.5" wide. (Be sure to wear them on the OUTSIDE of your legs.)


Time for me to be rather frank here. I know I make these suits and vests (along with 2 or 3 others out there), and they are VERY labor intensive, this is why I have to charge what I do to make them. But I see folks getting these cheap Chinese suits, obviously trying to save some money, but having to spend a lot more time and/or money fixing them in order to pass muster. To each their own... if you have the means to fix them AND save the money, more power to you, but those of us who make them correctly have already done a lot of research to get all the details as correct as we can, using the best materials possible. As much as I'd like to make a few bucks on an order, I'd also like to see everyone out there in the Legion looking their best... this is what really prompted me to start making them.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What Philonius said. His suits are certainly the best available. Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blue Banshee Leader wrote:
What Philonius said. His suits are certainly the best available. Smile



Thank you Alex! I didn't mean to toot my own horn, just pointing out the logic of "doing it right the first time". But, however you get there, that's your choice of course.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Philonius wrote:
Blue Banshee Leader wrote:
What Philonius said. His suits are certainly the best available. Smile



Thank you Alex! I didn't mean to toot my own horn, just pointing out the logic of "doing it right the first time". But, however you get there, that's your choice of course.
There's never any problem with a little bit of tooting. Laughing

But boy do I know all about having do redo things. I had to remake almost the entire suit of my Resistance X-wing pilot from my old base's group build because the suit was so inaccurate. It looks so much better now so it was certainly worth the time to rip it apart and fix it all but it would have made life much easier if it had been right from the beginning.

Of course this is coming from the guy who spent ten years making his B-wing pilot costume and making three different coveralls, three different flak vests, four different helmets and three different chestboxes over those years until the costume was accurate. Razz
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