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PArmstr's Senior Officer (Rogue One) WIP
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PArmstr (Patricia Armstrong-Krauss)
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My red Rogue One rank badge has finally arrived. Now I just have to finish my jacket so that I can apply.




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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 7:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks good, can't wait to see it all finished.
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PArmstr (Patricia Armstrong-Krauss)
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I made the new lower pockets today. I used the fabric of the elbow reinforcement. I really did not like making the pockets and sewing them on to the jacket. I hope that I do not have to do that again any time soon.

I hope that I can make the yoke at the weekend.








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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those pockets turned out really well, Patricia! I can't wait to see this completed. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was finally able to finish the jacket. I also bought some new boots. They had some straps but I cut those off. The boots have a zipper on the inside and are closer to those that were used in the movie than the Chelsea boots that I use for my Signals Intelligence Technician.

My jacket:



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My boots:










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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is looking great!

I really need to make one of those brown RFT-style shirts so I can do an Officer like this. Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kman wrote:
This is looking great!

I really need to make one of those brown RFT-style shirts so I can do an Officer like this. Smile


Thanks. I am sure this officer would suit you. Smile


My husband took some photos of me in full costume. I wish the CS would already be finished and online so that I could apply with this costume. I don't have enough references for the guy I am portraying to applý without a standing CS.







The references of the commander:


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 3:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It looks great overall! Nice find on the boots. Smile The one concern I have is that the yoke is reading very yellow in the pictures rather than the more golden mustard color. Maybe weathering would help? (I mean it's R1, no one is squeaky clean.)
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 7:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RebelLady wrote:
It looks great overall! Nice find on the boots. Smile The one concern I have is that the yoke is reading very yellow in the pictures rather than the more golden mustard color. Maybe weathering would help? (I mean it's R1, no one is squeaky clean.)


The yoke is mustard yellow. It has the color of German mustard, not the bright American one in the squeeze bottles that I remember. If you look really closely you can also see tiny sprinkles of brown in it. Similar to some German mustards. The sprinkles are only visible if you get real close to the fabric.

The fabric I used is the only one that was in the right color range. Everything else was very bright yellow, too orange or too brown. I think the yellow only looks so bright because the jacket is a darker shade of tan than what was used in the movie.

I have no experience with weathering clothing besides putting chalk on my jawa before every event. How should I weather the jacket?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PArmstr wrote:
RebelLady wrote:
It looks great overall! Nice find on the boots. Smile The one concern I have is that the yoke is reading very yellow in the pictures rather than the more golden mustard color. Maybe weathering would help? (I mean it's R1, no one is squeaky clean.)


The yoke is mustard yellow. It has the color of German mustard, not the bright American one in the squeeze bottles that I remember. If you look really closely you can also see tiny sprinkles of brown in it. Similar to some German mustards. The sprinkles are only visible if you get real close to the fabric.

The fabric I used is the only one that was in the right color range. Everything else was very bright yellow, too orange or too brown. I think the yellow only looks so bright because the jacket is a darker shade of tan than what was used in the movie.

I have no experience with weathering clothing besides putting chalk on my jawa before every event. How should I weather the jacket?


Do you have any scraps of the yoke fabric left over? If so, you could experiment with a light tea wash to see if it tones it down? I would definitely experiment with scraps and not on the jacket! I'll poke Jenna and Anya and see if they have any Cassian or Jyn inspired suggestions.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 7:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

YouTube has some ideas you might want to play around with (again- test on scraps):


This one uses paint- both airbrushed and with a chip brush- it's about 1/2 through when he gets to a fabric costume:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ErLOmGZQMA

This one uses tea/coffee dyeing- I'd avoid the bleach bit. Bleach has to be deactivated or it continues eating the fabric even after being washed off.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-7SaPdl4Uk

This one uses makeup, dry shampoo etc. I'm not sure about the Rey palette so please no one use this as gospel for that costume, but a couple of the products she uses look pretty good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLsiGDAOE04

The senior officers are much cleaner than the rest of the officers, but their clothes look lived in. I would be very careful not to overdo anything you do try, but a bit of aging will probably help.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RebelLady wrote:


Do you have any scraps of the yoke fabric left over? If so, you could experiment with a light tea wash to see if it tones it down? I would definitely experiment with scraps and not on the jacket! I'll poke Jenna and Anya and see if they have any Cassian or Jyn inspired suggestions.


Yes, I have some of the fabric left that I could use to experiment on. Thanks for the links. I am going start experimenting as soon as I have some time to do it.

We should perhaps consider permitting more shades of yellow for the yoke in the CS. It was very difficult to get the correct color and for some reason, it still looks off when it is on the jacket. The ANH version of this costume seems to have the same problem with the brown yoke. I looked at the photos in the member roster. The ANH yokes are all over the brown spectrum.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 1:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is looking really great so far, I'm so pleased to see more R1 officers. Glyn Dillion did just fantastic work all the way around.

The modifications to the coat are looking really good. Thus far, I think that the color of the yellow color of the yoke would benefit from a tea bath, it reads too soft of a tint as opposed to a more subdued, richer color. Personally, I had a shade very similar to what you are using on one of my builds and I let it sit in a very long tea bath that aged the color into a really nice deeper kind of gold. That and it made my coat smell fantastic. (Alternatively, here is a more recognizable example of how a tea bath helped. http://www.forum.rebellegion.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=84641&highlight= )

A black tea would be best, it can totally be a cheap one, if you go that route. Tea dye works really nice as a form of weathering too, as Kristina said.

In regards to the colors, I'll look into setting up color palettes and variants. I've started with another costume but I'll add this one onto the list, I know it's difficult definitively choose a color when the scenes with this particular officer are not lit really well.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I watched the weathering tutorials on YouTube. I think that those tutorials are very good for the Scarif Marines because those troopers are very dirty. I do not think that the tutorials are applicable to the Rogue One senior officers because the uniforms look like they have been worn a while but they are not dirty or damaged.

I could wash my jacket a couple of times to make it look more used. I am soaking a couple of fabric pieces in black tea and instant espresso as I am writing this to try out the process, but I do not think that weathering with paint, tea or coffee will work for me. I am a bit of a germophobe and I have to wash my costume after every event. So the weathering would probably be washed out real fast.

I guess I will not be able to get this costume approved for RL if we are this strict on the colors of the costume. My yoke does not seem to have the right shade of yellow in the photos when it is sewn onto the jacket. The contrast between the yoke and jacket seems to be a bit off. There is another thing to keep in mind. If my yoke color is wrong, shouldn't my pants' color be wrong as well? My pants are a darker shade of brown than the ones General Draven and Colonel Cor are wearing. If we want to be this strict with the colors we would also have to change the permitted boot and anklet color in the CS to middle and dark brown. We would have to take out the color black as a color option for both because most of the time the boots do not look black in my references. In that case, my boots and anklets are the wrong color as well.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it is more that the jacket makes the yellow look more lemon than golden....rather then the yellow being wrong as it were.

If it was me I'd practice tea or coffee dying on scraps,with different water to amount of cheap teabag or coffee ratio....... then unpick the yoke and tea or coffee dye it.

Here are some examples of the slight colour changes you can get with tea/coffee on yellows.


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