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Blue Squadron X-wing Pilot Standards (Proposal)
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How do these new standards look to you?
They look good to me!
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They need some more work. (Please explain.)
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 8:23 am    Post subject: Blue Squadron X-wing Pilot Standards (Proposal) Reply with quote

With some help here are the written Rogue One: A Star Wars Story Blue Squadron X-wing pilot standards that are being proposed. Please read through them and see what you think. Feel free to leave constructive feedback on what you like or don't like, or if you think something needs to be added or changed.


Flight Suit
The flight suit is a petroleum blue, one-piece flight suit/coveralls in a material consistent with screen references. The fabric should have a slight sheen (such as acetate or bomber silk) and be of sufficient weight to create a somewhat puffy look (which may require the suit to be lined). The flight suit features several details:
  • The front zipper is hidden by a strip of material of the same color and material as the suit.
  • The sleeves have box pleats from the bottom of the collar to the wrist, which are approximately 1/2" (inch) wide each, made of an off-white fabric, of a similar material to that of the suit. The pleating is inset with piping along the edges.
  • The flight suit features contrasting top stitching in a beige-colored thread.
  • The collar closes at the front with two snaps. The collar is also padded and features a horizontal gray or silver zipper along the sides and back to create the appearance of a hidden hood.
  • A commpad pocket on the left sleeve with an open "window" that sits above the wrist and is made of the same blue fabric as the suit.
  • There are two chest pockets with curved openings that wrap around the sides of the torso and the ends are stitched into the side seams of the suit, like Nomex flight suit chest pockets.
  • There are two upper thigh pockets with curved openings.
  • The right front thigh has a cargo-style kneepad pocket with a rectangular frame at the top, and has a blue webbing pull tab on the bottom flap and a side pen pocket.
  • There is a rectangular pocket on the left front thigh with a vertical gray or silver zipper.
  • Another pocket on the lower portion of the left leg, which is rectangular in shape and has a horizontal gray or silver zipper at the top.
  • The right lower leg has a rectangular pocket with a horizontal gray or silver zipper at the top, off to the outside of the leg.
  • A vertical gray or silver zipper at the center of each leg that reaches down to the bottom of the pant leg.
  • Optionally, there are two snaps on the suit with pull strings at the waist, which are covered by the belt.


Flak Vest
The flak vest consists of a front and back panel made of a white or off-white material (ballistic nylon or similar fabric) and is contoured to fit over the chest and back where the two panels are of a similar shape and size. The two panels are connected together by straps over the shoulder and under the arms. The flak vest MUST be proportional to the wearer (this is NOT one-size-fits-all).
  • The two panels are connected together by straps over the shoulder and under the arms.
  • The flak vest MUST be proportional to the wearer (this is NOT one-size-fits-all).
  • The top of the front panel should sit roughly just below the collar and the back slightly lower. Note that this vests sits higher than the Original Trilogy X-wing pilot vest.
  • The bottom of the front and back panels are even and should completely cover the chest while not extending toward the waist any further than two or three inches past the armpit.
  • The front panel has a series of horizontal ribs. The ribs are created by inserting 0.25″ (inch) OD tubing (or similar sized material) through fabric tubes prepared for the tubing. Ribs are separated from each other by a space that is the same width as the finished rib.
  • The side straps attach together via a black plastic strap adjuster, one on each side, rather than a purse clip/buckle like the Original Trilogy version.


Chestbox
The chestbox is a gray rectangular box made of a hard, smooth material, and includes the following features:
  • Raised buttons (acrylic preferred) with acceptable color schemes.
  • Separated rocker switches.
  • Accurate knobs (metal or other materials that when finished have a metallic silver appearance.), details, pin stripes, etc.
  • 1″ – 1.25″ (inches) diameter ribbed grey hose or aviation hose. One end of the hose should attach at the left-bottom of the chest box and the other end should connect to the left side of the suit above the belt with a type of black elbow joint.
  • Chest box is secured around the collar and the back with olive drab nylon/polypropylene/polyester/cotton(canvas) straps. The strap around the collar has no fasteners. The strap around the back has a silver or black “strap adjuster” style buckle in the back. Excess strap from should be either trimmed or otherwise hidden to present a neat appearance.
  • The bottom edge of the chestbox sits roughly two or three inches below the bottom edge of the flak vest.


Ejection Harness
The ejection harness is made of gray pleated elastic strapping that is 2” (inches) wide. Front and back straps extend up the torso under the flak vest and are secured to either the flight suit or to the underside of the flak vest panels. Attachment must be hidden by the flak vest. The lower part of the harness should fall (or loop) just below the inseam (or crotch area). Two loops of strapping are connected to the front-back strapping (at the lowest part of the front-back loop) and loop around each leg.

Belt
The belt is a British PLCE belt dyed medium or dark gray (replicas are acceptable with accurate details) and is worn inside out, and has a silver roll-pin buckle in the front center. The belt has silver-grey 1” (inch) webbing loops sewn on left and right sides divided into six loops on each side. The loop webbing is a lighter color than the belt color.

Commpad
An accurately-styled Rogue One specific commpad (size, details, three-dimensional, coloration, etc.) visible in the commpad pocket. Commpads of the original trilogy style are not acceptable.

Glove Commpad
This small commpad, similar to the Hoth Rebel trooper's, consists of a white thin rectangular base with teeth on the upper edge, a triangular slope and an orange, red-orange or gold screen or mesh in the center of the slope. The commpad is attached to the gauntlet of the left glove and is positioned with the teeth facing to the wearer's right.

Leg Flares
This item consists of a leg flare holder and a set of eight leg flares. The holder is olive drab in color and is made of webbing or fabric. It wraps around the lower leg and fastened together in the back with Velcro. Running the center of the holder is a thinner strap of the same material sectioned off into eight loops. In each loop is a leg flare, which are cylindrical in shape, starts off narrower at the top and has a wider portion at the middle. At the bottom it narrows in again, has a wide ring, and then narrows once again to a flat end. They are silver in color. OT X-wing pilot leg flares will not be accepted.

Gloves
Grey, beige or black gauntlet gloves in a heavy fabric, suede, or suede-like material, accurately styled. The gauntlet has five to six lines of pleated stitching going all the way around, and the glove has four wider pleats on the top of the hand with the first three pleats that are closest to the fingers being the same size but smaller than the lower pleat, which is wider. There is a small Velcro strap on the inside top of the wrist behind the thumb.

Boots
Mid-calf black boots (Jack boots or engineer boots are acceptable). Leather pull-on style preferred and with low heels. No laces or ankle buckles (a small buckle at top edge of boot is acceptable if covered by blousing the suit legs to hide them). If there zippers on the boots they must be on the inside of the leg and must be black.

Optional
Your costume must have at least one of the following items...
  • An X-wing pilot helmet of accurate style and decor. Original Trilogy or Rogue One variations are acceptable.
  • Up to twelve belt flares (six on each side) that are silver air line hose connector fittings or replicas of similar shape and detail, which fit into the belt flare loops mentioned above. A mix of empty and filled flare loops are acceptable, but no more than six flares per side. They should not be taller than the width of the belt.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks great. I notice a typo in the Flak Vest section:

The top of the front panel should sit roughly just below the collar and the back the back slightly lower.

Eliminate the second mention of "the back."
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fixed the typo Doug. Good eye!

There was another vote for "They need some more work. (Please explain.)" but no post with a follow up. Please let us know what changes you feel are required.

If nothing is said, we are going to move forward with the standard as posted above.

Anyone who votes does need to be a member of RLSC.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for spotting that. I completely missed it. I proofread the thing a half dozen times, don't know how I kept missing that. Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you could also add visual examples that would help. I have trouble reading lots of text.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's been brought to my attention that the arm pleats might actually be "knife pleats" and not "box pleats"...
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blue Banshee Leader wrote:
It's been brought to my attention that the arm pleats might actually be "knife pleats" and not "box pleats"...


That’s correct. I guess I missed that.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I voted for clearer info.
Vest states;
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The side straps attach together via a black plastic strap adjuster, one on each side


Will there be a picture and it doesn't say anything about the webbing that secures the vest. Does it still have the 4" channels in the back with the black metal ladder lock still?

I will add more as I see them.

Still the vest;
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The bottom of the front and back panels are even and should completely cover the chest while not extending toward the waist any further than two or three inches past the armpit.


For women that will be right across our pillows cutting them in half. To make the flak vest to : MUST be proportional to the wearer (this is NOT one-size-fits-all). Can yo put in a hard measurement like 2 or 3 inches under your pit?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just curious what's happening with this standard?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is being reviewed and is in the process of being approved by the standards comittee
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 6:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The standards are now up! Smile
http://newsite.rebellegion.com/blue-squadron-x-wing-pilot/

http://www.forum.rebellegion.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=108326#108326
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awesome!
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 4:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I’m a bit confused with the belt flares - all the reference pics that I’ve come across are 5 loops unless I’m missing where the sixth is. I feel like I’m totally missing something - where can I find reference pics that have 6 per side?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 7:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That was a small error in the standards that was discovered after they were posted. There should be five flares, though six should still be approved.
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